Source: Parker tells Niners that Crabtree will re-enter draft

[DearbornDolfan]

Sarge's Translation: No one has ever been that damn stupid.

What are you talking about? Bo Jackson did it, ended up going from a first round pick to a seventh.

 

[Arctic Dawgs]

Wasn't that 'cause he he was playing Baseball though

dunno:

 

[Ninja Turtle]

i honestly would like to see him sit out....just to see what would happen to him in the next draft

 

[German CTL]

I hope he does hold out and he ends up like Kelly Stouffer...cocky little prick.

 

[Cerberus]

I do not understand your position. Why shouldn't he have the right to negotiate a contract like everyone else? Just because a team drafts him he should become their indentured servant (I am keeping a straight face as I type this - I should be so indentured) for 1 or more years?

Point is, rookies coming in demanding top dollar but have yet to play a single down in the NFL. Their should be a base salary for rookies the first year and then the second year the teams can sign these players to whatever they feel is neccessary to keep them or can get rid of them. This here would stop all this hold out crap that happens every year.

 

[storminn0rm]

Point is, rookies coming in demanding top dollar but have yet to play a single down in the NFL. Their should be a base salary for rookies the first year and then the second year the teams can sign these players to whatever they feel is neccessary to keep them or can get rid of them. This here would stop all this hold out crap that happens every year.

I totally agree with this

 

[DearbornDolfan]

Wasn't that 'cause he he was playing Baseball though

dunno:

No, playing baseball was a consequence of him not liking the team he was drafted by.

 

[tblGoBlue]

agree with Cerberus... this is ridiculous and is totally screwing the teams involved. They are losing valuable time to get that player ready for the season, and are also damaging relationships between the player and the team before the relationships have even been formed.

 

[RLLD]

Rookies.....:sad:

Haven't done a single thing in the league, still think they are due some coin.

WR's might be the worst too, just sad.:shake:

 

[Cooley Cadets]

Point is, rookies coming in demanding top dollar but have yet to play a single down in the NFL. Their should be a base salary for rookies the first year and then the second year the teams can sign these players to whatever they feel is neccessary to keep them or can get rid of them. This here would stop all this hold out crap that happens every year.

Hardly the rookies fault. The owners came up with / agreed to a process that allows this to happen in order to eliminate competitors. It is not as though the rookie can get a competitive bid for their services because there is only 1 team with exclusive rights.

 

[Cooley Cadets]

also damaging relationships between the player and the team before the relationships have even been formed.

Damaging non-existent relationships. Really?

 

[Cerberus]

Hardly the rookies fault. The owners came up with / agreed to a process that allows this to happen in order to eliminate competitors. It is not as though the rookie can get a competitive bid for their services because there is only 1 team with exclusive rights.

And it has gotten out of control. So whats your point? i hope he goes back to the draft and falls flat on his face and has to wait to get drafted in the 3rd round and loses millions, and ironically SF drafts him again. LOL.

 

[Cooley Cadets]

And it has gotten out of control. So whats your point? i hope he goes back to the draft and falls flat on his face and has to wait to get drafted in the 3rd round and loses millions, and ironically SF drafts him again. LOL.

My point was I do not understand the logic behind your position. You support the owners who created the system and then condemn the rookie for playing the game they created and allowed to get out of control. Seems a little askew to me.

 

[Phicinfan]

My point was I do not understand the logic behind your position. You support the owners who created the system and then condemn the rookie for playing the game they created and allowed to get out of control. Seems a little askew to me.

I thought the draft was collectively bargained in? IF so, does not both parties hold responsibility to this issue?

I will also add, that the only way the league will ever get the veteran players correct $'s is to put in a rookie wage cap. To be giving players who have never taken an NFL snap so much money...only cripples a team. The guys who deserve it.....are the vets who have shown they can play. IMO.

 

[Cooley Cadets]

I thought the draft was collectively bargained in? IF so, does not both parties hold responsibility to this issue?

I will also add, that the only way the league will ever get the veteran players correct $'s is to put in a rookie wage cap. To be giving players who have never taken an NFL snap so much money...only cripples a team. The guys who deserve it.....are the vets who have shown they can play. IMO.

The league was/is the owners baby - collective bargaining was something they agreed to as a way of protecting their monopoly in my opinion.

I am not taking sides in this and agree with you that there needs to be work done. My issue is why would someone blame a rookie? Whether I agree with Crab's or not he is simply playing the negotiating game set up by others. He didn't have a role in creating that system so I do not see why he should hold any responsibility for its shortcomings simply because his potential hold out could point out one of the faults.

 

[Cerberus]

My point was I do not understand the logic behind your position. You support the owners who created the system and then condemn the rookie for playing the game they created and allowed to get out of control. Seems a little askew to me.

There must be some big space between my lines 'cause your reading way to much into it. NEVER have i once said i support the owners for this mess that has been created. All i am pointing out is there should be a salary cap/base salary for which rookies get paid. Yes i do disagree with the way rookies are holding out each/every year for ridiculous amount of money and they have yet to prove they can play in the NFL. How many times have teams been screwed by rookies who failed in the NFL or were injured and missed the first season. Yes the team owners created this mess and only they can bring this fiasco to an end.

 

[tblGoBlue]

Damaging non-existent relationships. Really?

I think you know what I meant...

 

[Bull]

There must be some big space between my lines 'cause your reading way to much into it. NEVER have i once said i support the owners for this mess that has been created. All i am pointing out is there should be a salary cap/base salary for which rookies get paid. Yes i do disagree with the way rookies are holding out each/every year for ridiculous amount of money and they have yet to prove they can play in the NFL. How many times have teams been screwed by rookies who failed in the NFL or were injured and missed the first season. Yes the team owners created this mess and only they can bring this fiasco to an end.

And how many times do they find studs on the cheap? Colston, Boldin, nevermind. Not going to start listing. You see the point.

 

[Cerberus]

And how many times do they find studs on the cheap? Colston, Boldin, nevermind. Not going to start listing. You see the point.

Yes but that is not the point here. This is about the amount of money rookies are demanding before even stepping on the field.

 

[Skedar120]

Yes but that is not the point here. This is about the amount of money rookies are demanding before even stepping on the field.

Imagine what its going to be like if they don't come to an agreement and there is no salary cap next year.