SO Members Mock Draft Disscussion Thread

I honestly don't see what the big deal is. If someone is gonna take the time to give solid analysis, this isn't a competition. The players are out there pretty much cookie-cutter ranked for anyone who wants to see. At least for me, doing the mocks are a way to gain knowledge about all the players. If someone wants to impart some knowledge, I say let it go.
 
While we appreciate your knowledge, as it is very clear you are well studied in the draft and this talent. We do have an unwritten rule here that we don't talk about players that have not been drafted yet. Please lets not do this anymore. Lets rely on each owner to do their own research and run their team their own way. Please?
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For me, alot of the knowledge that I try to share is from the love I have of the draft and college football. I love college football more than most fans and really get into understanding the draft as a whole. I think that those who disagree the most with sharing information would be those that are having potential targets discussed. I talked about Jamon Meredith before, and I wanted to draft him and he was gone. You have to have contigency plans and the NFL is ever changing. If this were some sort of title or money, I'd agree, but so far this just seems to be individuals who love football discussing when they feel outside their element on something.

But I'll leave it to the mods.
 
jmsmith1 said:
Dallas - Michael Hamlin...Not that I disagree with the SS pick, but I think that Hamlin is a reach here too. He ran a 4.6 at the combine and has been projected as a 3rd rounder. Even the better selection of Chip Vaughn is a early third round projection and ran a 4.5 40. But safety was a dire need here and I guess we're splitting hairs over which one. Good pick overall.
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Have you found ANY pick you dont have some fundamental problem with?
 
Have you found ANY pick you dont have some fundamental problem with?
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I dont find anything fundamentally wrong with most picks, save a few that in my opinion are just really poor. Im able to disagree with anyone's picks and like I've said before, Im looking at value and position with the player drafted. I wasnt overly critical of your decision, and you didnt have a first round pick, so this is the first pick of yours that I have critiqued.

Im just saying that, in my very humble opinion, you have to recognize your needs and get the player that fills that need, but you dont want to be the GM that is drafting a guy a round or two early just to fill that need with one certain player. Hamlin will do fine Im sure, I was just stating that I didnt think that he was the best available prospect, and was letting you know where he stood in the mix.

Why so serious.....pretty sure I said "Good pick overall"
 
That was not "serious", but you do seem to have issue with most of the picks made. For the most part, I think everyone is doing a pretty bang up job. This has been one of the more enjoyable mocks Ive participated in, and I look forward to another before the draft.
 
jmsmith1 said:
For me, alot of the knowledge that I try to share is from the love I have of the draft and college football. I love college football more than most fans and really get into understanding the draft as a whole. I think that those who disagree the most with sharing information would be those that are having potential targets discussed. I talked about Jamon Meredith before, and I wanted to draft him and he was gone. You have to have contigency plans and the NFL is ever changing. If this were some sort of title or money, I'd agree, but so far this just seems to be individuals who love football discussing when they feel outside their element on something.

But I'll leave it to the mods.
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Obviously this is a mock format and it's for fun, but I kinda like it to have as much realism as possible to keep the integrity of what we try to do here every year when we embark on this thread.
With that said, I enjoy reading your recaps of the last few picks off the board at any given time, just not so much when you talk about the players who haven't been picked yet when I'm formulating who I think would be the best pick for my team when it's my turn.
Clearly you wouldn't get mod'd because it's not a TOS violation, but good gamesmanship would dictate that if a few guys would prefer you abstain from commenting on future picks, you oblige.
 
Sure thing WesDawg....and if someone asks for my opinion, I'll gladly keep it in a private setting to maintain integrity. thanks bud!
 
My apologies

That was not "serious", but you do seem to have issue with most of the picks made. For the most part, I think everyone is doing a pretty bang up job. This has been one of the more enjoyable mocks Ive participated in, and I look forward to another before the draft.
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First, you must have not read the previous 10 posts that I have made regarding various teams and their picks. There are some teams that I think are doing a fantastic job and should be considered great GM material, especially Detroit and other individual picks. There are other GMs that make selections that I disagree with or offer my opinion on this....because its called a "discussion thread", and I thought we were supposed to be discussing the picks made?

Second, as WesDawg just alluded to...

as much realism as possible to keep the integrity of what we try to do here every year when we embark on this thread.
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This is exactly my motive and hope when I do post. I just dont pull my ideas out of thin air. I look at each teams needs, cross reference it with the value of the pick at the time and make my suggestion or agree with the pick. Anyone else is able to do the same, and I just make an effort to let people know what I feel...

Do I think that Percy Harvin was the most immediate need for the Vikings...No. But do I think in real life if he fell to #22 to Minnesota that they would take him for the reasons I stated....absolutely yes. Im attempting to bring a measure of reality to this that I think is necessary.

If this is getting under people's skins....I'll gladly stop posting.
 
First, you must have not read the previous 10 posts that I have made regarding various teams and their picks. There are some teams that I think are doing a fantastic job and should be considered great GM material. There are other GMs that make selections that I disagree with or offer my opinion on this....because its called a "discussion thread", and I thought we were supposed to be discussing the picks made?
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Ive read your posts. I wouldnt have made the comment about them if I hadn't read them. I will PM you to discuss this further.
 
He's off on a ski trip. I have a written request from him to submit his picks, but he did not send me the list.

I'll say wait till AD or Miller check on tomorrow, and if they dont have a list for him we will pick and move on.
 
Arctic Dawgs said:
Please explain. I sent ya a pm
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4. For teams with the same record, teams that fail to make the playoffs always pick before teams that earned playoff berths.

The above was taken from Wikipedia. NE didn't make the playoffs, Miami did, so the order wouldn't be serpentine as with teams who finished with the same records (like that three-way tie last year.)
 
Dearborn....you might need to edit your pick post...you put Darryl Beckwith from TCU...wasnt sure if you meant Jason Phillips from TCU or Beckwith from LSU.
 
Sgt John said:
Moving on, wonder how much the moves made since this started in the NFL would have altered our picks.
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Malcolm Jenkins - Broncos haven't spent money on the secondary since my pick, and PFT posted a small piece about the Broncos working out Jenkins soon. So far, I'm still good with my pick here.

Evander Hood - So many holes in the defense had me considering other players, but this kid has a real nice floor, if not the ceiling of those other considerations. Hard working characters guys always have a place on teams and we're likely to play a hybrid 3-4 4-3 this year due to a lack of quality personnel. This guy would be in on rotations his first year at minimum.

So far no news or team development has altered my (and I'm guessing their) plan to draft defense heavily.
 
WesDawg said:
Obviously this is a mock format and it's for fun, but I kinda like it to have as much realism as possible to keep the integrity of what we try to do here every year when we embark on this thread.
With that said, I enjoy reading your recaps of the last few picks off the board at any given time, just not so much when you talk about the players who haven't been picked yet when I'm formulating who I think would be the best pick for my team when it's my turn.
Clearly you wouldn't get mod'd because it's not a TOS violation, but good gamesmanship would dictate that if a few guys would prefer you abstain from commenting on future picks, you oblige.
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This is my point of view as well Jmsmith1.

While i find your enthusiasm very enjoyable, and I even enjoy your critiques after picks......it comes off extremely pompous to go on a long post on who others should pick. Part of being a GM is to take your own responsibility...and do the research. Not many NFL GM's wait for another GM to call and tell him who should go.

Feel free to pick apart any pick I make....as I am no expert as stated. I would just prefer not to have a litany of all the talent left for other GMs to pick up from please.
 
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