SO Members Mock Draft Disscussion Thread
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WesDawg
'Burghapologist
At the risk of sounding cockish, everyone except you has been pretty non-confrontational and tactful while addressing this topic. Would it really kill you to comply just this once and kill the sarcasm so we can put this discussion to bed and continue on with what is a fun and well-informed mock?
bobbeaux
Member
houston texans - olb clay matthews & ss william moore . . . they've just resigned ss nick ferguson, so he returns along with fs eugene wilson and they have some recent picks for depth, but i believe moore would have a great chance to start sometime this season . . . i believe lb clay matthews is a perfect fit for this team as well, as the houston def is going to be all about speed this year . . . have plenty of options to choose from for the 3rd round . . .
tennessee titans - ilb james laurinaitis . . . i doubt this guy is here at this pick, but i believe he is just what this team needs with the abscence of dt haynesworth . . . lots of options awaiting my 2nd pick . . . i'm wondering if the few picks ahead of me will decide who i take, or if i'll have all of the players i have in mind still available to me . . .
Runnik's Hambones
Active Member
Yet another surprise pick for me here. Grabbed Josh Freeman for the Panthers. McCown isn't their future, and neither is Moore. I figured grabbing the big QB to sit the bench behind Delhome for a few years would be nice. Sucks for the Bucs though...
bobbeaux
Member
tremendous value at this pick . . . wouldn't surprise me if he goes in the 1st round . . .
Is this aimed at me? Nearly every post Ive made has been non sarcastic. I can agree that discussing who someone should pick can undermine the process. Im not going to stop posting critiques. But I can definitely understand why someone might be upset about sharing information on who to draft because it can after later draft GMs who might be considering said player.
First, what do you mean everyone but me? I've done nothing wrong at all. Im not going to stop posting my critiques because your ego isnt being massaged. Im an equal member to this site just as anyone else is. If you dont like my critique or I offend you with MY OPINION...then skip the post. Dont respond. I'm merely posting my opinion, nothing more. Why all the hostility toward someone who wants this to be as real as possible.
Secondly, I believe that however meager my additions are, have made this part of that well informed mock. This is supposed to be fun. People are on here crying like girls because they pick Player X, and I make a statement saying that I think Player Y is a better fit. If your feelings are getting hurt over a simple mock draft, I suggest you pick up your socks and get counseling, cuz coming at me in a draft discussion thread isnt going to solve your issues.
Third, this is exactly what it says. A draft discussion thread. Not everyone is going to agree with my opinions. Varying points of view create discussion and allow others to respond. If anything, I think that people have been rude to me first and I feel rather disrespected, but I continue doing what I do and not letting it bother me. I'm going to keep posting as I do...its your prerogative if you read it or not.
Finally, this mock is not designed with any title, monetary prize, or anything of value to a designed winner. It merely is supposed to be fun. So let this be the last post of arguing over people's fragile sensibilities not being taken care of. If you disagree with my post, why not do like Phicinfan did....POST A REBUTTAL!!!
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Miami - Jauquin Iglesias is definitely a solid pick here. With what I believe Miami needs is a guy with great hands and runs good routes. Iglesias will go across the middle and is a high character player. The fact that he lasted til the end of the second round surprisese me and thus I think you got great value for him. Solid pick!
Baltimore - This is a match made in heaven. Barwin is a young, tough nosed, blue collar kid that will play wherever he is needed. He can play down and rush the passer or take on as a LB and assist the great corps Baltimore has, even though they lost Bart Scott. Barwin was an unknown commodity but after the combine, he's growing onto draft boards. He was very productive and flocks to the ball. He'll thrive in the Baltimore scheme. Lets hope they dont change too much with Rex Ryan going to New York.
New England - Sorry that this might have made some mad, but this is a good pick, nice value and fills a nice need. Linebacker was a great strength with Bruschi, Seau, and Vrabel. But now the Pats have to usher in a new youthful breed of LB in an attempt to continue their winning ways without much transition. That started last year with Jerod Mayo. Now Phillips comes in, a tremendous worker. This kid was ridiculously productive and led a great defensive unit. He rarely is ever outworked and I think will be a great star, a la Zach Thomas, in the NFL.
Carolina - Talk about the perfect situation. The Panthers desperately need a QB to take over for Delhomme. The fact that Freeman lasted past the first few second round picks was a surprise. I thought about taking him with Minnesota, but with Sage Rosenfels and Tarvaris Jackson next year, plus the QB crop next year being alot deeper, I thought it best to take a different route. Freeman is reminiscent of Daunte Culpepper, although maybe not as productive. He's a huge kid with a live arm and I imagine will contend for a starting spot by mid season.
New York - I took Brian Robiskie for one reason....what the hell do we know about Plaxico. Burress may not be available for the season so the Giants had to look at talent at WR. Robiskie is tall, rangy, and deceptively fast. At 6-3, 210, and a 4.48 40, he could easily line up aside Smith and Boss and give Manning a three headed passing monster. His height and a nar 38" vertical should make him an impact in the red zone as well. He's not an elite reciever, but the best left available with the skill set that is needed.
Baltimore - This is a match made in heaven. Barwin is a young, tough nosed, blue collar kid that will play wherever he is needed. He can play down and rush the passer or take on as a LB and assist the great corps Baltimore has, even though they lost Bart Scott. Barwin was an unknown commodity but after the combine, he's growing onto draft boards. He was very productive and flocks to the ball. He'll thrive in the Baltimore scheme. Lets hope they dont change too much with Rex Ryan going to New York.
New England - Sorry that this might have made some mad, but this is a good pick, nice value and fills a nice need. Linebacker was a great strength with Bruschi, Seau, and Vrabel. But now the Pats have to usher in a new youthful breed of LB in an attempt to continue their winning ways without much transition. That started last year with Jerod Mayo. Now Phillips comes in, a tremendous worker. This kid was ridiculously productive and led a great defensive unit. He rarely is ever outworked and I think will be a great star, a la Zach Thomas, in the NFL.
Carolina - Talk about the perfect situation. The Panthers desperately need a QB to take over for Delhomme. The fact that Freeman lasted past the first few second round picks was a surprise. I thought about taking him with Minnesota, but with Sage Rosenfels and Tarvaris Jackson next year, plus the QB crop next year being alot deeper, I thought it best to take a different route. Freeman is reminiscent of Daunte Culpepper, although maybe not as productive. He's a huge kid with a live arm and I imagine will contend for a starting spot by mid season.
New York - I took Brian Robiskie for one reason....what the hell do we know about Plaxico. Burress may not be available for the season so the Giants had to look at talent at WR. Robiskie is tall, rangy, and deceptively fast. At 6-3, 210, and a 4.48 40, he could easily line up aside Smith and Boss and give Manning a three headed passing monster. His height and a nar 38" vertical should make him an impact in the red zone as well. He's not an elite reciever, but the best left available with the skill set that is needed.
man, we need to calm down here it appears.....
one, JMsmith, your doing a GREAT job, I enjoy reading your posts and comments on the picks. I agree on the comments about players not picked, but that horse has been beaten to death and you respected others wishes and stated you'd stop.....issue over.
As far as duk's post, he's just being a smart ass......it's all good.
From here on, everyone relax and have fun. Rip away at picks if you disagree, but come with your reasoning, that's what makes a mock discussion great.
Now I'm off to come up with a plan B, damn you JMSmith, Robo was all ready to become a Colt. Like the pick for the Giants though, with Plex in limbo, Robo is a nice WR to add to their roster.
one, JMsmith, your doing a GREAT job, I enjoy reading your posts and comments on the picks. I agree on the comments about players not picked, but that horse has been beaten to death and you respected others wishes and stated you'd stop.....issue over.
As far as duk's post, he's just being a smart ass......it's all good.
From here on, everyone relax and have fun. Rip away at picks if you disagree, but come with your reasoning, that's what makes a mock discussion great.
Now I'm off to come up with a plan B, damn you JMSmith, Robo was all ready to become a Colt. Like the pick for the Giants though, with Plex in limbo, Robo is a nice WR to add to their roster.
WesDawg
'Burghapologist
First sentence, substitute "upset" with "mildy annoyed" because I already tactfully suggested you refrain from doing this in 2 posts and I believe Phicin and Sarge also commented in a similar context. Unlike some, I don't allow things on this forum to upset me.
Second sentence, I agree with completely because I believe I cited this as a reason to refrain from name dropping in a previous post.
Third sentence, I believe in this same quoted post you did the same thing you seemingly have an issue with, as far as "massaging ego's"? I apologize because after spending my adult life in the Military, I don't have much time for self-promoting individuals with thin skin that are trying a bit too hard to establish themselves in a new environment due to some sort of inferiority complex. I tend to gravitate towards folks who are mature enough to adjust their style towards the team dynamic.
Unless a forum leader would care to smack me down, I always thought the goal here at SO was to foster an environment where outside observers feel most comfortable joining so they don't have to deal with typical msg board nonsense such as this. I apologize in advance for being a contributor to the nonsense.
All I cared for was for you to refrain from commenting on undrafted players in your informative posts and I'm confused as to why an obviously intelligent individual would take that as such a personal affront to refer to it as "hostility".
bobbeaux
Member
i was thinking hard about taking wr robiskie as i feel he would be a perfect fit for the titans, but they do have some younger guys that have been hurt and haven't yet shown what they can do for the team . . . the addition of washington lessens the need here though.
pr/cb chris carr is shopping himself around and the titans need more cb depth with some players getting older . . . was thinking hard about taking a de here too, but felt cb was the greater need at this time . . .
pr/cb chris carr is shopping himself around and the titans need more cb depth with some players getting older . . . was thinking hard about taking a de here too, but felt cb was the greater need at this time . . .
Runnik's Hambones
Active Member
While I respectfully enjoy all of jm's comments, I do believe that Wes is being misunderstood.
NOTE: Before I finish this, understand that I'm going to Whistler in 10 minutes, and I will likely not be online much in the next couple of days.
Jm, do not stop posting, your insight is exactly what this thread is for, however, I agree with Wes in this: please refrain from discussing players that are not yet drafted. Only because someone's name could be in mind a few picks later for someone, but if they're mentioned then someone might select them before the pick arrives. Other than that, there's really no issue here.
No one, and I mean, no one, should be getting upset whatsoever (and do believe me when I say that I don't believe Wes is upset).
This is still one of the best drafts I've ever done, and I've decided to increase it at least one more round. Good picks so far guys, and do not stop discussing this! If you dislike a pick, please, tell us why you hate it. Other than that, enjoy it!
NOTE: Before I finish this, understand that I'm going to Whistler in 10 minutes, and I will likely not be online much in the next couple of days.
Jm, do not stop posting, your insight is exactly what this thread is for, however, I agree with Wes in this: please refrain from discussing players that are not yet drafted. Only because someone's name could be in mind a few picks later for someone, but if they're mentioned then someone might select them before the pick arrives. Other than that, there's really no issue here.
No one, and I mean, no one, should be getting upset whatsoever (and do believe me when I say that I don't believe Wes is upset).
This is still one of the best drafts I've ever done, and I've decided to increase it at least one more round. Good picks so far guys, and do not stop discussing this! If you dislike a pick, please, tell us why you hate it. Other than that, enjoy it!
jsmith:
keep doing what you are doing, name dropping in a Mock NFL Draft is not the same as name dropping in a fantasy draft. I see you as the Mel Kiper of our Mock and I have never heard of any GM getting on him for dropping names of players that haven't been selected yet....
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK....
keep doing what you are doing, name dropping in a Mock NFL Draft is not the same as name dropping in a fantasy draft. I see you as the Mel Kiper of our Mock and I have never heard of any GM getting on him for dropping names of players that haven't been selected yet....
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK....
WesDawg
'Burghapologist
Very happy to have Levitre available with my 2nd round pick. Along with Mack as our new Center, we're well on the way towards strengthening the only obvious negative on the team, the O-line.
Despite what Ben mentioned during the SB postgame ceremony, it needs a serious influx of new talent after losing Hartings and Faneca in consecutive offseasons. I may've just replaced them both with these 2 selections.
Despite what Ben mentioned during the SB postgame ceremony, it needs a serious influx of new talent after losing Hartings and Faneca in consecutive offseasons. I may've just replaced them both with these 2 selections.