Stallworth Suspended Indefinitely

[WesDawg]

Not sure if this has been posted elsewhere, but none other than the legendary Jim Brown was on ESPN radio this afternoon and stated that he had inside information from a reliable source that after the arrest, Stallworth popped positive for the hippy lettuce in addition to the 1.2 on the gun.

This would certainly clarify the stiff NFL suspension.

 

[Cooley Cadets]

Not sure if this has been posted elsewhere, but none other than the legendary Jim Brown was on ESPN radio this afternoon and stated that he had inside information from a reliable source that after the arrest, Stallworth popped positive for the hippy lettuce in addition to the 1.2 on the gun.

This would certainly clarify the stiff NFL suspension.

Hippy lettuce.

If accurate would it not have made the plea agreement less likely as well?

 

[WesDawg]

The way I interpret it, since he wasn't specifically being tested for whatever he popped for, it's a non-factor in the DUI manslaughter legal case.

As many of us probably know, THC can stick around in your system for up to 30 days so there would be no way to prove exactly when he puffed.

 

[Cooley Cadets]

The way I interpret it, since he wasn't specifically being tested for whatever he popped for, it's a non-factor in the DUI manslaughter legal case.

As many of us probably know, THC can stick around in your system for up to 30 days so there would be no way to prove exactly when he puffed.

Thinking most states don't require a recent puff for OUID. If the test came back positive for it the prosecutor should have been able to add it as a charge. Perhaps Sgt could confirm that.

 

[WesDawg]

Yeah, I'd be speaking way above my meager knowledge level if I even tried to tackle that one.

I do recall at some point reading that the only way to determine timing of using a substance was a spinal tap, which I'm quite sure he didn't undergo.

 

[Cooley Cadets]

Yeah, I'd be speaking way above my meager knowledge level if I even tried to tackle that one.

I do recall at some point reading that the only way to determine timing of using a substance was a spinal tap, which I'm quite sure he didn't undergo.

There is a big difference between alcohol and mary jane. Alcohol can be taken legally but not MJ (well that may be in the process of changing with expansion of medicinal purposes but we can safely save that for another time) - therefore the timing, I would imagine, should not be a determining factor for charging (can always be considered by a jury but that is a consideration farther down the road).

 

[WesDawg]

I was just referring to why Goodell was seemingly more heavy-handed with his discipline than the courts, if this report pans out.

 

[Cooley Cadets]

I was just referring to why Goodell was seemingly more heavy-handed with his discipline than the courts, if this report pans out.

I'm just wondering why it would not be public knowledge if there were additional potential charges.

Could be part of the plea agreement but the absence of anyone reporting it makes me more suspicious than usual about the unnamed reliable inside source.

 

[WesDawg]

I would be skeptical as well if it was someone other than Jim Brown since he still serves in a prominant role with the team.

 

[Cooley Cadets]

I would be skeptical as well if it was someone other than Jim Brown since he still serves in a prominant role with the team.

Which is a possible reason for misinformation - I read somewhere today about the financial repercussions for the team and how they may release him. the article was pretty vague and a decision probably will be on hold until the "indefinite suspension" becomes definite. I was not focusing on the details when I read it but rather was surprised that the team was positioning itself publicly already.

 

[Phicinfan]

The NFL is an employer and is subject to regulation as any other employer. I have never known of any other employer issuing indefinite suspensions for prolonged periods to employees without a system in place to promptly establish a definite period. How long has the NFL had to make that determination for Vick?

Again this thread has not focused on the actual punishment imposed (since we don't know what that will be) but the procedure (or more accurately the lack of one). Goodell continues to misuse the authority of his office by failing to address this void in the policy.

I think you are right here. However, as a unionized shop...with a collective bargaining agreement...I think this is covered under that...and the clauses that players have added to their contracts. So the NFL I believe does have some protection.

 

[Cooley Cadets]

I think you are right here. However, as a unionized shop...with a collective bargaining agreement...I think this is covered under that...and the clauses that players have added to their contracts. So the NFL I believe does have some protection.

I don't know what authority is granted either way so it will be interesting to see how this plays out. Will it have to be pursued as a violation of the agreement or as a bargaining point when they renegotiate the CBA.

Since I don't have that information I am not focusing on whether Goodell has the authority. In my opinion, even if he does I think he is abusing it and is not benefiting the league acting in a vigilante manner.

 

[Phicinfan]

I don't know what authority is granted either way so it will be interesting to see how this plays out. Will it have to be pursued as a violation of the agreement or as a bargaining point when they renegotiate the CBA.

Since I don't have that information I am not focusing on whether Goodell has the authority. In my opinion, even if he does I think he is abusing it and is not benefiting the league acting in a vigilante manner.

I won't argue Goodell's behavior. I happen to be the many here disgusted with his on again off again hard a$$ look. He penalizes two players BEFORE they are found guilty(Henry and Pacman)...and then they find out charges are dropped. Then on others he does nothing. He has made his own bed.....and will have to lie in it at some point.

 

[RZR]

NFL Network reported this week that the NFL will be putting micro chips in the players pads so they can track every movement and verify stats. With Goodell's Zeus tendencies I can only image how this information will affect the game in the future. The report didn't say when the micro chips will begin playing the game... but I doubt they'll wait a second longer than they have to.

On a positive note, Tackling stats may actually develop an air of accuracy in the future.

 

[Sgt John]

There is no truth to that rumor.......

 

[RZR]

I hope you're right. I really do.

 

[Sgt John]

I couldnt find anything on it if your were serious.