Redskins QB RG3 has knee surgery.
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Estimated six to eight months is being reported which could cost him a game in the regular season.
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Remote Controller
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That was a sickening momement for the the NFL and this franchise, in a time when the bad press wasn't needed. I get that RGIII wanted to stay in, but he should not have had the choice. Not Good!
I'm still agreeing with ya RC.
As one who has gone through ACL replacement surgery I can tell you that the road to recovery is a very bumpy one. He'll need to pay attention to his therapists and do everything they say. Hopefully, his recovery will be complete and without too many problems.
I wish him the best.
I wish him the best.
Remote Controller
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I wish him well too. I bet he and ADP get real close this off season. This young man isn't close to done, but his coach should be.
Yep Shanny should be axed, still agreeing RC.
Remote Controller
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R U Mocking Me????? Lol!
cctekguy
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You should both (and others) should be mocked to some extent.
I made reference to the 2010 situation with the Bears, Lovie Smith and Jay Cutler but no one seemed to want to remember.
What happened in 2010?
Cutler hurt his knee in the 1st quarter of the NFC championship game vs Green Bay. Cutler could still walk and insisted he could play after getting a shot for pain. Smith allowed him one more non-productive series of downs and then benched him. In other words, Smith did EXACTLY what everyone is screaming should have been done with RG3.
So, naturally, Smith got the "Humanitarian Of The Year" award and Bears fans showered him with rose petals, right?
Hardly....Media and fans screamed for Lovie Smith's head and Cutler was branded with labels like coward, not a team player and selfish.
Now, Shanahan and Griffin do EXACTLY what everyone thought Smith and Cutler should have done. Play Ball! I mean, based on the Bears debacle in 2010, this must certainly be the right thing to....right?
Nope. Two identical situations, two completely opposite decisions and both were wrong.
The only difference I see is that RG3 is not getting slandered as a result of the decision.
Apparently there is no "right" thing to do in this situation however one can go into damage control mode. In the future in a situation like this the coach needs to protect himself and bench the player (Smith DID manage to keep his job). The player ALSO needs to protect HIS reputation so he must ignore the coach and play anyway. The coach should jump up and down and rant and throw things until security removes him from the field. The player should play until his limbs fall off or blood loss makes him unconscious.
Who would we blame then?
Maybe someday we will all grow up and put the blame where it belongs. On a controversy driven media and the gullible drama slaves called "fans" that can't see past the sports page.
If Smith had been lauded by the press for putting the well being of his player ahead of winning then I think Shanny might have done the same thing. If fans had been sympathetic to Cutler and awarded him the Purple Heart (that's what other heroes get for getting injured) then maybe RG3 wouldn't have insisted on playing.
I really don't see how anyone can blame Shanahan for doing the opposite of what was wrong before.
I made reference to the 2010 situation with the Bears, Lovie Smith and Jay Cutler but no one seemed to want to remember.
What happened in 2010?
Cutler hurt his knee in the 1st quarter of the NFC championship game vs Green Bay. Cutler could still walk and insisted he could play after getting a shot for pain. Smith allowed him one more non-productive series of downs and then benched him. In other words, Smith did EXACTLY what everyone is screaming should have been done with RG3.
So, naturally, Smith got the "Humanitarian Of The Year" award and Bears fans showered him with rose petals, right?
Hardly....Media and fans screamed for Lovie Smith's head and Cutler was branded with labels like coward, not a team player and selfish.
Now, Shanahan and Griffin do EXACTLY what everyone thought Smith and Cutler should have done. Play Ball! I mean, based on the Bears debacle in 2010, this must certainly be the right thing to....right?
Nope. Two identical situations, two completely opposite decisions and both were wrong.
The only difference I see is that RG3 is not getting slandered as a result of the decision.
Apparently there is no "right" thing to do in this situation however one can go into damage control mode. In the future in a situation like this the coach needs to protect himself and bench the player (Smith DID manage to keep his job). The player ALSO needs to protect HIS reputation so he must ignore the coach and play anyway. The coach should jump up and down and rant and throw things until security removes him from the field. The player should play until his limbs fall off or blood loss makes him unconscious.
Who would we blame then?
Maybe someday we will all grow up and put the blame where it belongs. On a controversy driven media and the gullible drama slaves called "fans" that can't see past the sports page.
If Smith had been lauded by the press for putting the well being of his player ahead of winning then I think Shanny might have done the same thing. If fans had been sympathetic to Cutler and awarded him the Purple Heart (that's what other heroes get for getting injured) then maybe RG3 wouldn't have insisted on playing.
I really don't see how anyone can blame Shanahan for doing the opposite of what was wrong before.
I am with you Tekkie. For the record the person to blame for this is the Owner. That field was awful and should have been resodded. If anyone owns any responsibility for the injuries to RG3 and the DE for Seattle and the kicker its Washington Ownership, not Shanny.
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Pure drivel............
Even the most novice fans could tell he shouldn't have been in there. He's a young man and his natural instincts are to play through the pain and do anything to help his team win. Shanahan needed to step up and be the voice of reason and the one making the call for the young man. Plain and simple.
I doubt anyone who matters would have seriously questioned either RG3s toughness or Shanahans decision to pull him. Cutler took heat because he didn't even try to come back in and was riding a bike on the sideline. That criticism was unwarranted IMO because only the injured player can really tell how bad he is hurt, but none the less, that is why he got criticized. You can't make a decision like that based on media fall out. Shanny needed to put on the big boy pants and do the right thing.
Agreed
Remote Controller
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Shanny was an idiot to not only risk the injury to the franchise, but to think for a second that he could win with the product he had on the field after the first tweek. We it came down to, was he lacked the balls to do the right thing. He should be fired then hung.
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cctekguy
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It took me about ten seconds to find this:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/583727-true-grit-top-10-gutsiest-performances-in-sports-history
Some great stories in here. Most of you over the age of 40 will remember a lot of them.
Curt Schilling pitching in the ALCS with torn stitches in his ankle.
Brian Leftwich being carried to the line of scrimmage by his teammates because he couldn't walk. (CFL?)
Ronnie Lott chopping off his own finger so he could return to the game.
Where were the managers/coaches in these situations? Did anyone call for their heads?
Of course not....Know why? Because they WON.
Winning determines whether you are a hero or an idiot.
If Kirk Gibson's HR vs Oakland had hit the wall instead of going over, and he collapsed on his way to first and was thrown out....Would he be a hero? Would the manager still be a genius? Nope. Lasorda would have been an idiot.
Conversely, if RG3 had led a comeback victoy playing on one leg, would you still be calling for Shanahan's termination? You're a liar if you answer yes.
Now somebody search for a list of the "Top Ten Safest Decisions Of All Time".
Hmmm....even Google will laugh at you. Why? Because no one cares. No one cares that Lovie Smith may have saved Jay Cutler's career. All anyone cares about is winning and the Bears didn't win.
Personally, I never agree with playing an injured player. If your back up @ 100% isn't better than your starter @ 70% then you've got problems anyway. But that means I wouldn't have let Schilling pitch, Kirk Gibson would have stayed on the trainers table and Ronnie Lott would have exited to the hospital.
What a boring world it be if people didn't risk being an idiot for the chance at being a hero.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/583727-true-grit-top-10-gutsiest-performances-in-sports-history
Some great stories in here. Most of you over the age of 40 will remember a lot of them.
Curt Schilling pitching in the ALCS with torn stitches in his ankle.
Brian Leftwich being carried to the line of scrimmage by his teammates because he couldn't walk. (CFL?)
Ronnie Lott chopping off his own finger so he could return to the game.
Where were the managers/coaches in these situations? Did anyone call for their heads?
Of course not....Know why? Because they WON.
Winning determines whether you are a hero or an idiot.
If Kirk Gibson's HR vs Oakland had hit the wall instead of going over, and he collapsed on his way to first and was thrown out....Would he be a hero? Would the manager still be a genius? Nope. Lasorda would have been an idiot.
Conversely, if RG3 had led a comeback victoy playing on one leg, would you still be calling for Shanahan's termination? You're a liar if you answer yes.
Now somebody search for a list of the "Top Ten Safest Decisions Of All Time".
Hmmm....even Google will laugh at you. Why? Because no one cares. No one cares that Lovie Smith may have saved Jay Cutler's career. All anyone cares about is winning and the Bears didn't win.
Personally, I never agree with playing an injured player. If your back up @ 100% isn't better than your starter @ 70% then you've got problems anyway. But that means I wouldn't have let Schilling pitch, Kirk Gibson would have stayed on the trainers table and Ronnie Lott would have exited to the hospital.
What a boring world it be if people didn't risk being an idiot for the chance at being a hero.