Jets RB Thomas Jones Softening Stance?
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Cooley Cadets
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I doubt that is the case. Hasn't he done something like this before? I think it may have more to do with him being a player instead of a playa. He will go just so far to make a point but will not be a detriment to his team.
His entire time in the NFL people have been on his case (being a player that drafted him there was plenty of early disappointment) but for the most part I think he has handled himself quite well.
There wasn't the public venting from him when he transitioned from Ari to TB, up to Chi and even the ugly situation where he was moved from Chi-town to NY was handled relatively well (seemed others seeing Benson was not a suitable replacement raised more of an uproar than Jones who seemed to just want an opportunity to prove the Bear organization wrong). He has quietly improved and produced over his career.
While not conceding the starting role I expect him to be a very positive influence on Greene. I would be interested in hearing the reasoning for opposing viewpoints though if people think I am mistaken.
His entire time in the NFL people have been on his case (being a player that drafted him there was plenty of early disappointment) but for the most part I think he has handled himself quite well.
There wasn't the public venting from him when he transitioned from Ari to TB, up to Chi and even the ugly situation where he was moved from Chi-town to NY was handled relatively well (seemed others seeing Benson was not a suitable replacement raised more of an uproar than Jones who seemed to just want an opportunity to prove the Bear organization wrong). He has quietly improved and produced over his career.
While not conceding the starting role I expect him to be a very positive influence on Greene. I would be interested in hearing the reasoning for opposing viewpoints though if people think I am mistaken.
Are we talking about the same Thomas Jones???:hmmm: Seems like he is always worried about what he doesn't get or what he doesn't have.....and early on when he was a failure I seem to remember it was never his fault.....I could be wrong, but I don't see him as boy scout.......
Orgazmo
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I don't blame the guy - for this year anyway. His clock is running out and wants some reward for putting in a solid year.
But hasn't this been the same story with him for his entire career?
Here is a clip from April of 2006:
Let's not paint Jones as just a guy who had a great year and this one time to wanting more money.....this is a trend with him. And let's not forget about the structure of thsi contract. Jones requested the front loaded contract that left him with low salries at the end.....that was his request.....he should live with his decision.
Let's not paint Jones as just a guy who had a great year and this one time to wanting more money.....this is a trend with him. And let's not forget about the structure of thsi contract. Jones requested the front loaded contract that left him with low salries at the end.....that was his request.....he should live with his decision.
Orgazmo
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Only having one other significantly productive season, I'm not sure. I can't recall all the stories. But he was good last year and he's 30 years old, so I don't blame him for his actions this offseason.
Orgazmo
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I can agree with that. And I still don't blame him for his attempts. These guys have a very tiny window to make the toll on his body a little more worthwhile.
I never blame someone fro attempts.....but I can't blame the team for saying no....They paid him good money from the start instead of a team friendly back loaded contract that is so common that allows the team to just cut them at the end will little harm salary cap wise. This is the deal he wanted, they gave it to him. They now drafted a young back to cover him if he does hold out.....looks to me like Jones is playing with a bad hand and has realized he is holing a 2/7 and not pocket aces.......
Cooley Cadets
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His time in Arizona is going back farther than I can accurately remember. Wasn't there a medical condition that was discovered just before/after he went to TB that was treated?
His time with the Cardinals was not impressive but he has done much better everywhere he has been since then. Makes me wonder if there might have been something to the medical condition possibility.
He came in and produced for Tampa but was not retained. He moved to Chicago and produces but they draft his replacement who the administration forced into the rotation despite not being able to carry the load. He goes to NY and every year we hear about his demise, replacement. This year the names have changed but it is the same story. Do you really blame the guy for thinking people/teams have never had the long term confidence in him his production warranted?
I did not paint him as a boy scout but for someone who has done as well as he has since those first 3 painful seasons I get the impression he is a better role model than many stars on other teams.
Cooley Cadets
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More players should honor their commitments and play out contracts. Unfortunately that is not the NFL. Jones has not dragged any of his requests out to the extent of many other players that I can recall. Missing some OTA's is pretty minor for veterans - has he extended any hold out into training camp?
Cooley Cadets
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A front loaded contract benefited both Jones and the Jets at the time. I do not believe it was as one sided as you make it appear.
but most veteran's don't pull this shit at every stop.....and I think you are painting an awful broad brush over the NFL. There a a VERY large majority of players who honor their contracts every year and play and show up to the mini-camps, voluntary and mandatory. The % that do not is VERY small, they just get the attention from the media.
Jones is not as bad as some, but he's not been the best teammate in the world and this seems to be a reoccurring theme for him, that's my point. This doesn't strike me as the "role model" you claim.
He's a solid player, but he's a solid player who is now realizing that he is not holding the cards here.....best thing for him to do is get over it, and get into camp while he still has a job.
Jones is not as bad as some, but he's not been the best teammate in the world and this seems to be a reoccurring theme for him, that's my point. This doesn't strike me as the "role model" you claim.
He's a solid player, but he's a solid player who is now realizing that he is not holding the cards here.....best thing for him to do is get over it, and get into camp while he still has a job.
How does the front loaded contract benefit the Jets if he demands a restructuring?? The benefit for the Jets is realized right now. I don't see how you can see it any other way. He gets his money early on and doesn't have to risk waiting to get it later in the contract when he may get cut before getting it. Front ended = good for player; Back loaded = good for team. That is the simple economics of the contracts in most situations.
Cooley Cadets
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Seems there may be some glossing over on both sides of the argument... I mean conversation. A lot of the players who do the same thing do not get the media coverage because they are not news worthy. A lot of players do not hold out because they are not as crucial/focal point on the team as some other players... I never doubted Jones would eventually show up (and not for any card playing analogy).
He is one of how many other veterans who have not showed up for OTA's? Just because he wants something doesn't make his absence any more reason for concern than those others.
It isn't a reason for concern.....he just does not have any leverage here and hence why I stated what I did in the second post of this thread, and why he will end up showing up when he has to be there:
Simple truth
