Cutler in Chicago??

Glad to hear Bennett is continuing to impress as the team needs positive improvement from the position.

Has Julio Iglesias made an impression yet?
 

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The ChicagoBears.com, reports Chicago Bears offensive coordinator Ron Turner said he is very impressed with QB Jay Cutler's arm strength and accuracy. 'His arm strength, I've never been around anything like that before, and he's shown very good accuracy the little bit I've been around him,'
 

Remote Controller

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Cutler Likes Forte's Receiving Skills --
Thu May 21, 2009 --from FFMastermind.com
ChicagoBears.com reports Bears QB Jay Cutler has been impressed with RB Matt Forte's ability as a receiver. Last year the second-round pick broke Bears records for receptions by a rookie and by a running back, catching 63 passes for 477 yards and 4 TDs. “He's a smart player,” Cutler said. “You learn that right away. You can put him in different positions and he's going to react positively. I'm excited about him. I think we're going to be able to move him around a lot.”
  • -- Jay Cutler Sharp Again --
    Thu May 21, 2009 --from FFMastermind.com​
  • ChicagoBears.com reports Bears QB Jay Cutler looked sharp in practice again on Thursday, connecting with WR Earl Bennett on a quick slant, WR Devin Hester across the middle and RB Matt Forte in the right flat during team drills against the Bears defense. “I feel like we're starting to click,” Hester said. “He's in a situation where he's in a new offense with new receivers, so we're polishing it up and getting used to the timing of it and the speed. Once we get that down, we'll be good.” Bears veterans have been impressed with Cutler's attitude. He's shown leadership skills but has acted as “one of the guys” who doesn't think he's more important than any other player. “He's a tremendous teammate, a good person and a good leader out on the field,” said WR Rashied Davis. “He's not a yeller-screamer, but he's vocal. He'll come and he'll talk to you. He talks in the huddle. He's just not a yeller. He doesn't come to the sideline screaming and hollering.”
 
Gotta admit the initial reports are more favorable than I had originally anticipated. Granted the sources are a little biased but none the less they now have some players I need to pay a little more attention to.

I still have trouble accepting Hester as a viable WR that I can depend on so even with the continuing emergence of Bennett someone like Davis, Forte, Olsen or even Clark has to develop a rapport with Cutler and Jay's comment may be the indicator that Forte could have another fine season - top 5 in a redraft??? We'll see.
 

Remote Controller

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Gotta admit the initial reports are more favorable than I had originally anticipated. Granted the sources are a little biased but none the less they now have some players I need to pay a little more attention to.

I still have trouble accepting Hester as a viable WR that I can depend on so even with the continuing emergence of Bennett someone like Davis, Forte, Olsen or even Clark has to develop a rapport with Cutler and Jay's comment may be the indicator that Forte could have another fine season - top 5 in a redraft??? We'll see.
Hester is more viable than the last two years just from the standpoint that he has much more familiarity with running routes. Add to that the fact that he now has a QB who can launch it deeper and through tighter windows then he has ever had. The deep throws stretch the field allowing his speed to be even more dangerous. Now they will have to commit to how they want to cover him. Cutler can nail him 65 yards down the field. If they simply try to cover him deep, he can break it off and move the chains underneath. The same scenario was available with Orton, but arm strength shortened the field of coverage. Hester does present a dilema that teams will have to prepare for. Add to that the fact that they have a nice TE, and a safety valve in a Forte. This is a whole new dynamic in Chicago.

I personally feel Forte is in the top 3 in either Redraft or Dynasty.
 
I will never discount the threat Hester provides the team just not convinced on how reliable/consistent he is at the position. Would feel much more comfortable with an established dependable WR across from him. Bennett may become that but he is not there yet.

You are dead on about the drastic change in team dynamics.
 

Miller

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I will never discount the threat Hester provides the team just not convinced on how reliable/consistent he is at the position. Would feel much more comfortable with an established dependable WR across from him. Bennett may become that but he is not there yet.

You are dead on about the drastic change in team dynamics.
Shock....but we may just agree here.....that means we'll add 2 more pages in how we disagree about our agreement ;)

I agree on Hester, he is not a true #1. This Bears offense still needs that #1 WR IMO. Bennett is a nice sleeper, and Hester will show flashes, but If they would add a dynamic receiver this offense could take off IMO. Could be the only thing it is missing, though I admit I am not up to speed on the state of their Oline.
 

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I agree on Hester, he is not a true #1. This Bears offense still needs that #1 WR IMO. Bennett is a nice sleeper, and Hester will show flashes, but If they would add a dynamic receiver this offense could take off IMO. Could be the only thing it is missing, though I admit I am not up to speed on the state of their Oline.

I think as the 09 season progresses, 1 of the Chicago WRs will emerge as a #1. Cutler will find his guy, and whoever that is will be a 65+ receptions, 1000 Yd dude.

*Paging Earl Bennett...
 
Shock....but we may just agree here.....that means we'll add 2 more pages in how we disagree about our agreement ;)

I agree on Hester, he is not a true #1. This Bears offense still needs that #1 WR IMO. Bennett is a nice sleeper, and Hester will show flashes, but If they would add a dynamic receiver this offense could take off IMO. Could be the only thing it is missing, though I admit I am not up to speed on the state of their Oline.

Great - now you have me re-evaluating the Chicago O. There must be a disconnect here because the planets are not scheduled to be aligned to allow a Miller/Cadet agreement anytime soon.
 

ExperiencedRookie

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Unless someone is signed you are asking quite a bit from Bennett so quickly but it will be what they need.

Someone is going to have a break out season. With the strong rushing attack and the constant underneath work to Forte and Olsen, 1 of those WRs is going to be getting open from time to time.

If Cutler finds his Royal, it's going to be game on! There WILL BE a fantasy gem in the Chicago WR corps this year. This gem will also not be named Hester.

That starts to narrow it down...
 

Miller

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Someone is going to have a break out season. With the strong rushing attack and the constant underneath work to Forte and Olsen, 1 of those WRs is going to be getting open from time to time.

If Cutler finds his Royal, it's going to be game on! There WILL BE a fantasy gem in the Chicago WR corps this year. This gem will also not be named Hester.

That starts to narrow it down...
Let me throw one wrinkle into this......I agree that if Cutler finds his Royal it will be a huge boost, but for there is be a Royal doesn't there need to be a Marshall to take the heat off of the Royal? Royal's consistent success was in part due to having a big time play maker across the field from him to take pressure off. That is why I say they are missing that big piece to the puzzle. If they can get a big time play maker on the outside, it opens up everything else and allows it to flow consistently. Without it, my fear is you will only see flashes of what this offense could achieve.
 

ExperiencedRookie

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Good point Miller. Having a big play guy on the other side certainly opens things up. I think that doing some little things well can also open it up for a poss type WR to do some serious damage though. If Forte is running well and hurting teams in the underneath work, and Olsen can be productive in the short game, 1 of these WRs can achieve the same type of coverage.

I know Royal is probably a bad comparison because of the skill he showed last year, but in his 1 game without Marshall on the other side he caught 9 passes for 146 and a TD. This was his 1st pro game. He only had 1 preseason of work in with Jay Cutler.

I really feel that one of these Chicago WRs can accomplish something similar to this.
 

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What??? No love for Rashied in the slot? :p I agree a marshall type presence on the outside would be a major bonus, but I feel this offense is gonna be pretty good this year. I feel Olsen is a MAJOR TE talent, and Forte much more room to run this year because of the QB upgrade.

How elite of a wideout are we talking here Miller? (Fitz and Moss class, or Jennings class) Not many teams have that, and not many have much better of a TE, or a 3 down back who will likely have 50+receptions. I totally agree that a top Wr would make this offense scary good, but they will be pretty darn good anyway with Cutler. IMHO
 

Miller

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I don't think it has to nbe Fitz or Moss class. But a true #1 that would force some attention outside. Just a thought here.....some feel COC could still be on his way out in Cincy.....COC could be just what that offense needs to explode.....

Re: Royal's big game 1.
Not to take anything away from it, but also consider no one knew anything about him and he did not attract any defensive pressure or attention in the planning process. Kinda caught them off gaurd and proved to be a heck of a talent. What we are talking about here is sustained success....to do that you need that lightning rod to draw the attention outside.
 

ExperiencedRookie

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How elite of a wideout are we talking here Miller? (Fitz and Moss class, or Jennings class) Not many teams have that, and not many have much better of a TE, or a 3 down back who will likely have 50+receptions. I totally agree that a top Wr would make this offense scary good, but they will be pretty darn good anyway with Cutler. IMHO

Agreed. I think this offense will be good in a different way than Denver was good with Marshall.
 

ExperiencedRookie

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Re: Royal's big game 1.
Not to take anything away from it, but also consider no one knew anything about him and he did not attract any defensive pressure or attention in the planning process. Kinda caught them off gaurd and proved to be a heck of a talent. What we are talking about here is sustained success....to do that you need that lightning rod to draw the attention outside.

I get what you're saying Miller, but I want to review that game a little more closely.

Denver was opening the season against Oakland. Oakland had a pair of disgusting CBs in DeAngelo Hall and Asomugha. Even if they didn't know who Eddie Royal was, doesn't mean that these guys didn't come to play on opening weekend. It is likely that Royal had 1 of these studs draped all over him all game long. It's not like just because Marshall was gone that Oakland decided to ignore the passing attack of Denver in a divisional game on opening weekend.

I realize that Chicago does not have a Brandon Marshall type WR, but my point is that I feel that the offense will be good enough in a different way that it will open up space for 1 of the Chicago WRs to have a very nice season.
 

Miller

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I get what you're saying Miller, but I want to review that game a little more closely.

Denver was opening the season against Oakland. Oakland had a pair of disgusting CBs in DeAngelo Hall and Asomugha. Even if they didn't know who Eddie Royal was, doesn't mean that these guys didn't come to play on opening weekend. It is likely that Royal had 1 of these studs draped all over him all game long. It's not like just because Marshall was gone that Oakland decided to ignore the passing attack of Denver in a divisional game on opening weekend.

I realize that Chicago does not have a Brandon Marshall type WR, but my point is that I feel that the offense will be good enough in a different way that it will open up space for 1 of the Chicago WRs to have a very nice season.
Good point. But do we think anyone on Chicago's roster even has the talent of Royal?
 
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