Al Davis has passed away

Arctic Dawgs

Well-Known Member
Can say lots about him, good and bad. But he certainly left a huge mark on what the NFL is today

Rest in Peace Al
 

mudloggerone

Outlaw
Administrator
Davis’ career in football dates to 1950. He served as a coach, general manager and even commissioner (in the American Football League that merged with the NFL in 1970) before becoming the Raiders’ principal owner in 1972.

Under his ownership tenure, Oakland won three Super Bowl titles. Davis also holds the record for most Hall of Fame induction speeches given with nine for players and coaches who worked under him, including John Madden and the late Gene Upshaw.

Davis helped revolutionized offense in the early 1960s by implementing an aggressive passing game he referred to as the “vertical game.” Davis’ other fabled mantra was “Just win, baby!” The Raiders did that for most of Davis’ tenure, posting 34 seasons of .500 or better in his 48 years with the franchise.

Longtime Raiders owner Al Davis dies - NFL News | FOX Sports on MSN
 

derringer007

"Its An Outrage"
You either loved him or hated him but what he has done for the game of football and the NFL as a founding father of the league and of course owner of the Oakland Raiders will be missed by all who love the game.

"Commitment To Excellence" & "Just Win Baby" are two famous quotes that are familiar to all in association with Al Davis & the Raiders.

Thanks for all the great teams you put on the field, for all the winning seasons, for the 3 Super Bowl victories and all the joy you have brought me for the last 40 plus years either in Oakland or Los Angeles.

Its a sad day for me, the Raider Nation, and the NFL.

I shed a tear in your honor sir.

RIP Big Al Davis you will be missed
 
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cctekguy

Staff member
There hasn't been a kind word said about Davis on this forum since I joined it.

Now he's dead and everyone gets weepy.

Why does it make people feel good to speak fondly of the dead when they didn't have a kind word to say when he was living?

Just curious.
 

Remote Controller

Well-Known Member
There hasn't been a kind word said about Davis on this forum since I joined it.

Now he's dead and everyone gets weepy.

Why does it make people feel good to speak fondly of the dead when they didn't have a kind word to say when he was living?

Just curious.
I beg to differ. I have always stated that I loved him in that movie "Weekend at Al's".
 

mudloggerone

Outlaw
Administrator
I had many of the same thoughts Tekie. I think it's just a simple life lesson that we choose to remember the good moments and there were too many to count with Al, and not dwell on the bad decisions made as the man grew much older. Some say that the game had passed Al by but I don't think so... His judge of talent slipped in the end but he was always right in that speed kills.
 

German CTL

Circle City Outlaw
There hasn't been a kind word said about Davis on this forum since I joined it.

Now he's dead and everyone gets weepy.

Why does it make people feel good to speak fondly of the dead when they didn't have a kind word to say when he was living?

Just curious.

Davis may have lost his edge in recent years and taken a lot of heat for it but when you look at his entire body of work it is truly great.
 

Miller

Who Dey
Administrator
Al Davis of recent years was a dinosaur in the modern NFL and should have stepped away some years ago.....HOWEVER, Al Davis in the prime of his life was a great contributor to the game and was the creator of Raider Nation as we know it. You can feel a man has lost it at the end and still remember him in passing for the contributions that he made.
 

jjtweeks

Moderator
He was an exciting owner. He loved his teams to air it up and keep games explosive. He was a great contributor to the NFL. Of course when your great, your loved and hated by many and even those who may have "hated" him most likely held respect for him. i try to limit my trash talking to Grossman:yellowlaugh:. Wow does my "hatred" for Grossman mean i could subconsciously:shake: think he is great? nah
prayers go out to the Davis Family and fans.
 

MongerKhan

TXL: Pimp Hand Strong
Staff member
Moderator
Can probably say without a doubt that he has forgotten more about football than a lot of people will ever know.
 

Jackson

The Green Phoenix
Staff member
There hasn't been a kind word said about Davis on this forum since I joined it.

Now he's dead and everyone gets weepy.

Why does it make people feel good to speak fondly of the dead when they didn't have a kind word to say when he was living?

Just curious.

I have an idea. First of all, he was still a pivotal figure at the front of an NFL franchise, which can, and should, be held accountable for their successes and failures. Al Davis of all people knew what was important was winning, and I don't think he would have (or much did) criticize people for criticizing him. His Oakland Raiders (and there were very much his) posted seven straight seasons of 11 or more losses from 2003-2009. Not a single player, coach, or general manager would get that much leeway. He only got to ringmaster that sort of circus because he owned it.

There was some concern, I'm sure, that although Davis had won three Super Bowls and had been to one less than a decade ago, the game had changed more than he had. His reliance on a speed and athleticism seemed simplistic and almost silly in a league that's mental because of the roughly even talent pool. Some might have even seen the last Raider resurgence as a Gruden architecture (although it was Davis who picked Gruden to begin with). I remember reading in Sean Payton's post-Super Bowl book about when Payton wanted to be a NFL head coach more than anything, had the Raiders job if he wanted it, and turned it down because all his coach friends told him he'd be crazy to work there.

And even before the miserable seven years, he always had sort of a crotchety, weird sort of persona with a litigious streak. He was also aggressive and contentious. He moved the Raiders not once, but twice from a community that loved them. On Ice Cube's documentary about the L.A. Raiders last year, he all but threatened to move them out of Oakland back to L.A. again! Davis's goal wasn't to be liked; it was to win. I'm sure he wanted to be liked and respected by his close associates, but he also seemed like the sort of person he would write off people who didn't "get" him.

I will say that I'm an NFC guy, who because a serious NFL only around 2000 when I was 13, and whatever Davis had done lately has always seemed a little bit foreign and distant to me. I didn't have strong feelings about him, but I did find him fascinating. And certainly, as much as I am a student of NFL history, I think there were many positive things that Al Davis pioneered in the name of winning. I will say that I doubt Al Davis's reputation on this board was wildly different from the NFL world at large. I think, sad to say, the Raiders can now move forward with Al Davis's spirit and general philosophy without Al Davis almost stifling them, as he could sometimes do.

I will say Al Davis could be many thing but boring was not one of them. I respect Al Davis's contributions to the NFL, and he can rest assured that the NFL is a little less interesting than it was a day ago. My only regret for him is that he didn't go out on a win. He deserved it. Rest in peace, Al.
 

cctekguy

Staff member
A glowing obituary is a fine tribute to an NFL pioneer.

Pretending we have lost someone we loved is an insult to him and his family.

Wonderful post Jackson!
 

derringer007

"Its An Outrage"
There hasn't been a kind word said about Davis on this forum since I joined it.

Now he's dead and everyone gets weepy.

Why does it make people feel good to speak fondly of the dead when they didn't have a kind word to say when he was living?

Just curious.

I may have ripped him a time or too during his latter years for making questionable moves on draft day etc...... but i have also defended him for all he has done in the best interest of the Raiders thru out the years.

Your entitled to your opinion.
 

Cerberus

In Dog We Trust
The NFL losing a legend like Al Davis is like Apple and the world losing Steve Jobs. Like them or hate them, neither industry would be the same without either of these to great gentlemen.

RIP AL DAVIS. I'll roll one in your memory and thank you for giving us the football as we know it today. Peace out.
 
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