Why Pete Carroll will fail

Sgt John

Sgt John

Sith Lord of T&A
Give Pete Carroll about one year before he starts realizing the mistake he just made. By that time, he'll be wondering why he resigned from USC to become head coach of the Seattle Seahawks.

That fat deal he recently accepted -- one reportedly worth $35 million over five years -- won't be nearly as capable of insulating his pride from all the abuse he'll be taking publicly. The players also won't be embracing him like they have in college. Before you know it, that constant smile that has become Carroll's trademark will be harder and harder to find.

Regardless of how optimistic some Carroll supporters may be about this news, the man is going to fail in the NFL. He's already been fired by the New York Jets (whom he coached in 1994) and the New England Patriots (he was there from 1997 to '99), which is all you really need to know.

A nine-year absence from pro football doesn't mean Carroll has learned how to be a better head coach at that level. It means only that he's become one more man who thought it was better to give up a cushy gig for a shot at the big time.

Although Carroll deserves credit for securing a nice paycheck in this move, there's little else about the decision that makes sense. It's as if Carroll dismissed all the recent struggles of other head coaches who jumped from college to the NFL. Nick Saban couldn't last more than two years with the Miami Dolphins before fleeing to Alabama. Bobby Petrino didn't even finish a full year in Atlanta before racing off to Arkansas. Steve Spurrier was miserable with the Washington Redskins until he decided it was best to disappear and then land at South Carolina.
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ESPN NCAAF Carroll, NFL still a lousy fit

Good read.
 
Mike

Mike

Administrator
He got no chance with his first team, and his hands were completely tied behind his back by the Patriots. He is going to succeed or fail on his own terms this time, and personally, I think he will do well. Won't happen overnight, as the Seahawks need to be basically rebuilt, but I think he will do fine.

Jeffri Cheddarpepper sounds like he simply wants Carroll to fail.
 
mudloggerone

mudloggerone

Outlaw
Administrator
The article is spot on IMO. Much like Nick he'll find the players in college are grown men that will not respond as they did in college. Of course he should already know that from his first experience. I feel he'll fail but only time will tell.
 
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Runnik's Hambones

Active Member
This depends on how you define success. I think that Pete Carroll will take the Seahawks to the playoffs at least twice in the next 2 years, but that's about as far as they go. Like Mike said, it wont happen over night, but I think that's what will happen.
 
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MLBrandow

New Member
I believe Chadiha to be an awful sportswriter, and he tends to write often with terse cliches such as this:

"Regardless of how optimistic some Carroll supporters may be about this news, the man is going to fail in the NFL. He's already been fired by the New York Jets (whom he coached in 1994) and the New England Patriots (he was there from 1997 to '99), which is all you really need to know."


Now this was just before my time being an avid football fan, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to look just a little bit further into the records of these seasons and really raise some questions. His 33-31 record over four seasons sure leaves much to be answered.

His NFL tenure included being fired after one season as a head coach at 6-10 (I could probably name at least ten current coaches with the same or worse first season record who are doing alright now), being fired with a 27-21 record over three seasons with the Patriots and finishing out with a 1-2 playoff record.

The seasons following his firings his former teams were 3-13 and 5-11 respectively, both three wins less than the season before.



To regurgitate the aforementioned cliche would be a fitting end to this post:

That an article written about why Pete Carroll will fail in the NFL, he wrote two lines about the guy's four seasons in the NFL is pretty much all you need to know.
 
Orgazmo

Orgazmo

Well-Known Member
What's done is done. At this point, I can hope for one of two things... either he surprises everyone and gets to the playoffs with this squad and a few key moves... or... they fight tooth and nail regardless of their record, like the Browns did down the stretch. That would mean he's learned something from his last pro coaching stint when it comes to motivating grown men.

As a plus, Ken Norton is coming to coach up Seattle's deepest position. :)
 
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