What Team could the NFL do without?
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Orgazmo
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my answer as well
cleveland or the seahawks.
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cctekguy
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Are we basing this on the current quality of the team of the location's ability to sustain it.
Seattle and Jacksonville are good choices in both categories.
I think Green Bay will one day lose it's franchise to a larger market but it will take a long, long drought and "laughing stock" status for that to happen.
Baltimore is in an over populated NFL market and Tampa Bay lacks mass appeal.
Picking just one, I'd say Jacksonville. Putrid team, crappy uniforms, short history and the 3rd of 3 teams in Florida.
Buffalo fit's the the above criteria except they have a bit of a history.
Seattle and Jacksonville are good choices in both categories.
I think Green Bay will one day lose it's franchise to a larger market but it will take a long, long drought and "laughing stock" status for that to happen.
Baltimore is in an over populated NFL market and Tampa Bay lacks mass appeal.
Picking just one, I'd say Jacksonville. Putrid team, crappy uniforms, short history and the 3rd of 3 teams in Florida.
Buffalo fit's the the above criteria except they have a bit of a history.
First of all, this is an absurd argument. One team is eventually going to move to Los Angeles, sure, but the NFL isn't oversaturated. Contraction is the last thing on the NFL's mind. Maybe--although I personally think this unlikely beyond a team or two--some will move to international markets, but there aren't too many left in the U.S. that are better than the ones they have (outside of L.A., of course).
Green Bay will never lose its team. First, it has the entire Wisconsin market to itself. Because of history, pro football means more to the people of Wisconsin than it does to say, Michigan. Also, Green Bay is publicly owned. It doesn't have a single owner that would follow the money anywhere.
Buffalo has an old owner, with an old stadium, and it tries home games in Canada. Buffalo has history, sure, but much less so than Green Bay.
Cleveland is also a silly suggestion. Of all places, the NFL wouldn't let the Lerners or anybody else make them look silly by moving the team again.
Seattle has great fans. They sell out games. Also, it has a region. Lots of teams, especially outside of the eastern seaboard, operate this way. New Orleans couldn't work without the Gulf South. Denver is hugely popular because it owns the Mountain Time Zone. Seattle has the Pacific Northwest. Kansas City must have some significant Great Plains support.
Jacksonville, however, and even Tampa Bay, are squeezed by the saturation of the Florida market. Lots of people live there, sure, but a lot of them aren't from Florida. They bring old allegiences with them. Miami probably has the hearts and minds of most Floridians because it--although not significantly better lately--has some winning tradition and is based in a sexier city than Tampa or Jacksonville.
#1bears fan
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I agree on GB never losing its market them frickin people up there are NUTS, the whole damn town shuts down when they play and the suicide rate jumps when they lose. I would have to say Oakland.....................why because although they have crazy fans they dont fill their stadium. Having that many games blacked out is embarrassing.
Cerberus
In Dog We Trust
I could see Jax being moved to a different market, maybe LA and becoming successful. Florida, in particular Jax is a college football town. I wouldnt be suprised if 1 FL/Ga game has more fans at it than a whole season of Jags games. People there like the team just hard to follow a loser when used to winning college games. And if youve ever seen a Jag game you'd know why. Has to be the hardest team to watch play, just annoying watching the game plan and play calls.
Kingdome
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What is your logic picking Seattle? The fans are too loud? The city is too big? The stadium is too nice? The lakefront HQs and practice facility puts every other team's to shame? Why Seattle?
German CTL
Circle City Outlaw
Jacksonville would get my vote... Seattle definitely isn't the answer, they've got a good thing going up there.
Greenbay can't be moved. It is owned by the comunity.
Seattle won't be moved.
The only move will be either Jacksonville, Buffalo or maybe Minnesota. Minny's lease is up this or next year I think. I don't think they will get tax dollars to build new stadium.
Seattle won't be moved.
The only move will be either Jacksonville, Buffalo or maybe Minnesota. Minny's lease is up this or next year I think. I don't think they will get tax dollars to build new stadium.
Scout200
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You made an excellent point! I've never thought about that before - that the Florida market is primarily made up of those who aren't from there and they bring old allegiances.
derringer007
"Its An Outrage"
The Raider Nation is indeed a crazy bunch but the owner is crazier and will go where the money is, Big Al Davis dont have any love for the fans no matter what city the Raiders play in.
Put a winning team on the field and you wont be able to find a ticket in Oakland.
mills
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Panthers are getting there... living in Charlotte and being a Charlotte native all of my life, there are more fans for the opposite team coming to the game than there are Panthers fans... Go to a steelers game and you will see 1 panther fan to every 2 steelers fans. This isn't necessarily the Panther's fault (although this season isn't helping) but a lot of people from Charlotte are transplants and they generally won't support the local team.
storminn0rm
Brewmaster
Jacksonville