The Jacksonville Jaguars need a new QB or.....

Coachnorm

Coachnorm

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There is a growing notion that the Jags need a new QB, or maybe not. I think some of this is due to some nervousness that the MJD era may be closing in a few years.

Let me say a few things.

While Garrard has had some slumps I have also seen him have some great games moving the O very well.

This years QB crop is said to be not a great one so it may not be the best year to go after a rookie QB.

In the NFL teams can do very well with a trio that consists of great WR, a great RB and a good QB.

While you can make a good case For and Against Garrard I see a different problem. They haven't developed or obtained a true Number one WR since Jimmy Smith has left the scene. I won't go through all the WRs but just give my general observation. There has been a constant rotation at WR for many years. Someone becomes the X WR and then is out performed by the Y WR who becomes the X WR the following year only to outperformed by the Y WR or even the Z guy. The details vary a bit from year to year the names are always changing but the WR corps is in constant flux. It just seems that if everytime your new X WR gets double teamed his production drops and the Y guy looks better. Which suggests to me that none of these guys have been a true #1.

So rather than drafting a QB I would be looking to get Santonio Holmes from the Jets in Free Agency.
 
Right now The Jets have been dangling both Braylon and Holmes out as trade bait. I wouldn't get rid of either one myself. Like you I am sure they would rather get rid of just Braylon and keep Holmes so if Braylon goes first then Holmes won't be available after that. So if you actually want Holmes you would have to go after him early and hard and maybe overpay a bit.
 
I don't know that Holmes is a true #1. I feel he needs someone on the other side to help take coverage.

I agree that if they get the tools needed, they could be fine, but do think they need to draft for the future.

If they could somehow swing up to get Jones from Alabama or Green from Georgia. Or, if Rice is really healthy, or Steve Smith is moved. They could really fix that team.

I also agree though, that MJD won't be MJD much longer.
 
Jax has Jennings to take some of the pressure away from MJD. He played sparingly last season but when he did he played very well. If Jax is smart they will use him more next season to help keep gas in MJDs tank as the season progresses.

I'm on the fence about Gerrard. With what he has had to throw to the past few seasons, he has performed decent. True he has no #1 WR right now and they really do need to fix that either thru FA or the draft. Like to see what Gerrard can do if he had a true #1. There lack of one really showed last season as they were unable to spread the offence down the field. They got some decent TEs but with no real WR threat the defence could keep them under control. This is part of the reason just watching that offence was agoning at times. Craziest thing about them even w/o a deep threat last year, they had the fewest 3 and outs in the NIL.

If they don't get a true #1 WR, a DL who can put pressure on opposing QBs and get some secondary help, then next season will be like last season. They need alot of position players this year from the draft or FA but i think they should go as i mentioned above. Maybe then they will be able to use some play action and open it up more for MJD or Jennings.
 
Phicinfan said:
I don't know that Holmes is a true #1. I feel he needs someone on the other side to help take coverage.

I agree that if they get the tools needed, they could be fine, but do think they need to draft for the future.

If they could somehow swing up to get Jones from Alabama or Green from Georgia. Or, if Rice is really healthy, or Steve Smith is moved. They could really fix that team.

I also agree though, that MJD won't be MJD much longer.
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I don't think Holmes is a true #1 myself but you could end up with two high performing #2 s. Drafting a WR and adding one of the others is a nice move and a little more forward thinking. I just think that this is a better direction, rather than drafting a QB, to try and take advantage of the rest of the MJD era. The Jags have been close but both the Jags and the Texans have been twarted by the Super Colts. A lot may depend on who has the most slippage first, Peyton or MJD.
 
Jax hasnt had a WR since Matt Jones. Guy would catch everything around him and he was fast too. To bad he got stupid and broke the law.

Heck wouldn't mind and would even stoked if they brought in Plaxico after he gets out of jail.
 
Reading on the Jags website and their going with Ryan Kerrigan, DE, Purdue with their pick at 16. They actually did a mock draft up to their pick and it looks like this :


No. 1 | Carolina | Blaine Gabbert, QB, Missouri

No. 2 | Denver | Patrick Peterson, CB, Louisiana State

No. 3 | Buffalo | Von Miller, LB, Texas A&M

No. 4 | Cincinnati | Da’Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson

No. 5 | Arizona | Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama

No. 6 | Cleveland | A.J. Green, WR, Georgia

No. 7 | San Francisco | Robert Quinn, DE, North Carolina

No. 8 | Tennessee | Nick Fairley, DT, Auburn

No. 9 | Dallas | Tyron Smith, OT, Southern California

No. 10 | Washington | Cam Newton, QB, Auburn

No. 11 | Houston | Prince Amukamara, CB, Nebraska

No. 12 | Minnesota | Jake Locker, QB, Washington

No. 13 | Detroit | Nate Solder, OT, Colorado

No. 14 | St. Louis | Julio Jones, WR, Alabama

No. 15 | Miami | Mark Ingram, RB, Alabama

No. 16 | Jacksonville | Ryan Kerrigan, DE, Purdue
 
Interesting how they have Gabbert going first then of the QBs being talked about here recently it goes Cam and then Locker.

Cam in Washington? Is that really a good fit? I don't think so. Does Washington even have any supporting cast for him?

Locker to Minny? Thought they were going for Kolb?
 
Cerberus said:
Interesting how they have Gabbert going first then of the QBs being talked about here recently it goes Cam and then Locker.

Cam in Washington? Is that really a good fit? I don't think so. Does Washington even have any supporting cast for him?

Locker to Minny? Thought they were going for Kolb?
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Gabbert to Carolina I don't buy. If they go Qb, I think they have to take Newton for the splash.

Cam to Washington could work. They have solid Tes, but limited at Wr to a few targets.

Locker to Minny would be an absolute panic move. I just don't see it happening as he is clearly not a first round value. But alot may depend on the CBA work and if teams feel late trades will hurt them or no.
 
Guy in another article made a comment about Cam and it did make sense. This guy is going to need some players around him to succeed and a decent line. And the Ds he has to face will count alot on if can be successful or not. Put him in Washington and he would have to face the defences of Philly, Dallas and Ny twice a year. Might have a much easier time trying to play QB in Carolina or even Buffalo.
 
Jacksonville Jaguars 2010 Team Player Roster - ESPN

I was just going thru Jax roster from last season and i didn't realize the amount of such young players they have. Good portion of the team only has 2-4 yrs exp so it can only get better as they mature. And the biggest thing i forgot is we do have Trent Edwards as a back up QB. Forgot they picked him up last season. And they got 4 friggin QBs on the roster anyways, figure that will change before the season starts, so they definitly need to go and get D line and WR help in the draft and thru FA. Wish they would pusue Aso at least a little. Show some kind of interest and show the fans your serious about winning.
 
1 - The team mock is a smoke screen

2 - Newton to Washington would be a disaster of biblical proportions.
 
Sgt John said:
1 - The team mock is a smoke screen

2 - Newton to Washington would be a disaster of biblical proportions.
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Newton won't make it to Washington.

And everything, this time of year, is a smokescreen. There is no point even expending the energy to type in regards to these stories. Shanahan drafted Cutler with zero team workout and zero interviews. Believe nothing!
 
Sgt John said:
1 - The team mock is a smoke screen

2 - Newton to Washington would be a disaster of biblical proportions.
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All mocks are a joke. I just like to see the differences in them from diferent parts of the country. Washington is a disaster. I'm betting on Cam on being a total train wreck also. Match made in heaven.
 
We have mentioned a few Free Agents WRs that could be available. Go after a couple of them and then see what Garrard is capable of with a little more punch at the WR spot. Draft for that D as it not as bad as it seems, get a good pass rusher and one non- toasy corner and big strides can be made on that side of the ball.

Here is another FA WR Candidate.

The Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel believes the Packers would take free agent James Jones back if they "had their druthers. The Packers still value Jones, and they "don't seem put off by his adrenaline-draining drops." Jones' future in Green Bay depends almost wholly on the fate of four-year vets once free agency kicks off. If he hits the open market, Jones is a good bet to draw an inflated offer that GM Ted Thompson won't match.
 
Like the way your thinking here coach. Gerrard has talent but hard to show it when all your WRs have a bad case of the dropsys. Matt Jones was a sure handed WR and was his go to guy. To bad he did some idiot things to get thrown off the team. I'd really like to see them go for Plaxico when he gets out. Heck, i'd be happy to see Jax make some noise and go after anybody really.
 
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