Sarge's Take on Possible Superconference Breakdowns

mudloggerone

Outlaw
Administrator
I'm sure that many would be scared of the competition that UT would bring to the SEC West but I'd like to believe that those in charge would be able to see that adding a quality school like Texas would only be a huge plus for us all in the long run. I wonder how Mack would feel about coaching against the SEC teams again? Knowing him a bit I think he'd welcome the challenge.
 

DearbornDolfan

Active Member
Here's how I think Div I football should break down, if everything goes to superconferences.

SEC
Alabama
Arkansas
Auburn
Clemson (ACC)
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
LSU
Mississippi State
Oklahoma (Big 12)
Ole Miss
South Carolina
Tennessee
Texas (Big 12)
Vanderbilt
Virginia Tech (ACC)

Big 16 (former Big 10)
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Iowa State (Big 12)
Michigan
Michigan State
Minnesota
Missouri (Big 12)
Nebraska (Big 12)
Northwestern
Ohio State
Penn State
Pittsburgh (Big East)
Purdue
Syracuse (Big East)
Wisconsin

Pac-16 (former Pac-10)
Arizona
Arizona State
Cal
Colorado (Big 12)
Kansas (Big 12)
Kansas State (Big 12)
Oklahoma State (Big 12)
Oregon
Oregon State
Stanford
Texas A&M (Big 12)
Texas Tech (Big 12)
UCLA
USC
Utah (MWC)
Washington
Washington State

ACC
Boston College
Cincinnati (Big East)
Duke
Florida State
Georgia Tech
Louisville (Big East)
Maryland
Miami
North Carolina
NC State
Rutgers (Big East)
South Florida (Big East)
UConn (Big East)
Virginia
Wake Forest
West Virginia (Big East)
 

Kingdome

FOOTBALL!
Why put all the football powers in one conference? You have to spread them out. Texas, Oklahoma, & V-Tech to the SEC? No way. The SEC already has 6 elite programs, which is already well more than any other conference. You have to spread the mega programs around between the Super Conferences.
 

DearbornDolfan

Active Member
Actually, there's a reason for it. Basically two teams dominate the SEC, and by extension the BCS championship. Adding the two Big 12 powers is going to turn the SEC into a slaughterhouse during the regular season and give other conferences a shot. Plus, no team added to the SEC gets access via exposure to recruiting pipelines it doesn't already have

Excepting the ACC, which will inevitably get the scraps, the other conferences got a lot of good up and coming programs. The proposed PAC-16, because of the addition of most of the Big 12 schools actually gives the PAC-12 schools access to some fairly strong HS football traditions and the former Big 12 schools will get to tap California. That will inevitably turn the PAC-16 into a very competitive conference.

And I don't know why you're complaining anyway, shaping the PAC-16 as I did turns them into THE basketball powerhouse.
 

Kingdome

FOOTBALL!
The major programs expect to play in the major bowl games on a regular basis. Since only two teams max go from each conference, a place like the SEC with 6 "five star" programs, already have a tough time getting elite bowl bids, let alone playing for the Natl. Championship. There are reasons why Florida State & Miami are not already in the SEC, and this is the big one.
 

DearbornDolfan

Active Member
You're not really presenting any arguments that are convincing me this is a bad move. As a matter of fact, what you're saying is convincing me it would be the best move possible. I'm tired of seeing Texas/Oklahoma vs $random_sec_team in the national title every freaking year. Further, this alignment would all but force a playoff system, which would serve to end this anti-competitive crap called the BCS.
 

Kingdome

FOOTBALL!
When was the last time Tennessee made a BCS bowl game? That is why you can't add anymore elite teams into the SEC. IMO there are 14 five star programs. 6 of them are already in the SEC.

We need to make other conferences stronger like the SEC, not weakening them while making the SEC even stronger.

It is a bad idea all around. It is not good for the SEC members both perspective & existing, not good for other conferences, not good for college football.

The problem with the current college football conference alignment isn't the SEC, it is elsewhere. *cough Big East*
 
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