If this was the NCAA theyd have to vacate wins and get a slap on the wrist
I don't know, this is part of the reason I kind of like the NFL better. Their punishments are actually real and forward-looking, as opposed to the NCAA's imaginary, retroactive, impotent, and spiteful punishments.
It really doesn't matter what the Saints did anymore. What matters is that they--nor anybody else in the NFL--learn that bounties can't be part of the NFL anymore. I'm having a little fun with the situation in my avatar and signature, but deliberately try to hurt players is at best archaric and at worst, downright brutal. Chance and the evolution of the size and speed of the players has made the NFL dangerous enough without that crap.
I still support Payton and Loomis as the Saints' leaders from here on out, but I know for sure by Payton's reactions to the punishment he doesn't "get it" yet. Coaches are supposed to be leaders and responsible for their teams. The Saints won a Super Bowl, and he's a hero. You let the franchise go off the rails for a while, you take the blame for that. It makes sense that the biggest punishments are level at individuals--it will serve as the biggest deterrent. The Saints got off easy on draft picks, but the loss of Payton is also huge, and Loomis as well. That's the team's real punishment.
It can taint the Super Bowl championship for other people, but it won't for me. I'm not going to apologize for being a Saints fan in the past or going forward, but I'm not going to condone what any of our players, coaches, or executives did.