Jacksonville moves in to get Gabbert

[Miller]

Great move IMO. They can let him learn behind Garrard for a year and he has a great running game to lean on and a nice security blanket at TE in Lewis. This is a great spot for him to be a star. IMO, if they can add some serious threats on the outside over the next 2 seasons he will be a star in the making.

 

[Runnik's Hambones]

I will stick by my mock and say that the best fit for Gabbert in this entire draft was Minn. Which is why I think Ponder got lucky himself, not just to get drafted that high, but to go to a team like the Vikings (not saying that Ponder isn't deserving of that spot, I believe he is actually). Still, this could really work for Gabbert. Over the next few years we're going to see a different Jax team. They will build around him for the future.

 

[Remote Controller]

That vaunted running game showed major kinks last year.

 

[bobbeaux]

unless they go hard in fa, del rio just made sure they won't make the playoffs and will be out the door . . . bad move, imo.

 

[Cerberus]

That vaunted running game showed major kinks last year.

And i blame that on the lack of a true #1 WR. Not sold on this pick really. They could have stayed where they were and picked up a DE which they needed more and kept the 2nd round pick or even traded up, for much cheaper, and gotten Dalton. They really need to grab DE and WR now with what they have left and in FA or it will be another long year here and brutal once again on MJD.

 

[Remote Controller]

I think MJD mislead team Dr's and trainers to an extent. He was injured much more than he led on, and it affected the team.

 

[Cerberus]

I think MJD mislead team Dr's and trainers to an extent. He was injured much more than he led on, and it affected the team.

Can't disagree with that one at all. With all the talk of Bush being the odd man out in NO, it wouldn't be a bad fit for Jax to have Bush as maybe in the slot position. Definitly open up the offence some.

 

[Coachnorm]

Can't disagree with that one at all. With all the talk of Bush being the odd man out in NO, it wouldn't be a bad fit for Jax to have Bush as maybe in the slot position. Would open up the offense some.

That's an interesting notion.

 

[Cerberus]

That's an interesting notion.

Thats what i was thinking, esp if they can get him on the low low. Still think he has life in them legs but not as a RB, never really did make it as one in the NFL IMO, but as a slot type guy it will give Gerrard another threat along with the TE. Then get off their ases and pick up a top notch WR to spread the field and open up the underneath, and make holes for MJD , this team might actually win a few games and look good doing it.

 

[Cerberus]

Ok thru 3 rounds, Jax has the following:

10(10) Blaine Gabbert QB Missouri
from Washington

What he brings: Gabbert has the frame, intangibles and arm strength teams look for. He is a tough leader who can play through pain and rally his teammates, and while he needs to improve his pocket mobility and ability to handle pressure he has the toughness and foot speed to do so. It's somewhat surprising he fell this far because he is the most accurate of the top three quarterbacks on our board, and he has the football acumen to make the transition from a college spread scheme to a pro-style offense.

How he fits: The Jags have many needs on defense, but this is a good pick and Gabbert will be in a good situation. He can sit behind David Garrard, who is serviceable but not great. Backup Trent Edwards doesn't look like the future and this fan base needs someone to get excited about. Gabbert will be helped by a strong running game and a pretty good offensive line, but his biggest challenge will be thriving without a lot of weapons. He really allows a vanilla and conservative offense to open things up and become less predictable.

3 12(76) William Rackley OG Lehigh
from San Fransico

What he brings: Rackley lined up at left tackle in college but his lack of length will force him inside in the NFL. He does, however, have the tools to be a day one starter at guard in the NFL. He has the tenacity and strong punch to be an effective run blocker and the lateral quickness to hold up one-on-one inside. He also eased concerns about the competition he faced with a strong week at the East-West Shrine game.

How he fits: This looks like a value pick because on a suspect team; this offensive line seems to be pretty well set. Rackley was a LT in college but he projects nicely inside to back up the guard positions. He could eventually become a starter because the guys in front of him are solid but not elite.


Two picks thru 3 rounds and they haven't addressed any real "NOW" needs. What are they thinking? We need a pass rusher DE and a top notch WR to spread the field and they haven't done either. They got 2 4ths and a 5th round pick, hope they address this or its looking like another long losing season here in Jax.

 

[Orgazmo]

Two picks thru 3 rounds and they haven't addressed any real "NOW" needs. What are they thinking? We need a pass rusher DE and a top notch WR to spread the field and they haven't done either. They got 2 4ths and a 5th round pick, hope they address this or its looking like another long losing season here in Jax.

I think the lockout has really forced teams to draft the most talented players on their board. If it also happens to be a need position, then that's just gravy. Jax won't find stars at WR or DE in the third round round; not with all those d-lineman that have been drafted. It was a good draft year for DL but that pool was drained. At this point, any WR or DL they draft will be depth at best.

So let them draft whatever player is talented enough to become a starter, then address the needs when FA/trading is allowed. Ray Edwards or Kiwanuka would be nice targets.

 

[Cerberus]

Yeah maybe. Of course i am not sure if they are planning on filling spots thru FA either. That wouldn't be a bad idea , like picking up Plaxico Burress and see if he still has it.

 

[Cerberus]

Um ok now they take Cecil Shorts WR out of MT Union. WHO? He's 5'11 and wieghs 205. Hell i'm 5'11 and 195, maybe i should try out. LOL. I'm going to have to look up this guy and see if i can find anything to read about him.

And with the 121 first pick in we pick up Christopher Prosinski , S , out of Wyoming. Once again i'll have to find info on this guy also. How good can the guy be when a PK is drafted before you.

Well 4 picks down and one to go. Definitly not a barn burner draft for Jax. They need to get the CBA in place so i can figure out what they are thinking. Hopefully FA is it.

 

[Cerberus]

I find this on Cecil Shorts:

Jacksonville Cecil Shorts WR Mount Union

What he brings: Shorts is raw in his routes and has some inconsistency with his hands, but he has the quickness and suddenness to line up in the slot and is above-average after the catch. He also brings special teams value as a returner.

How he fits: Mike Thomas is the only dependable WR on this roster and he is more of a slot guy than an outside threat. Mike Sims-Walker has never really emerged and could be gone in free agency and the rest of their guys are young but unproven. Shorts is a solid guy who should contribute early and he also has good value as a return specialist, but he's not elite.

 

[Cerberus]

Picking a WR with inconsistant hands? Hell we already have lots of WRs with bad hands and now add another? We could have gotten Doss instead and he's 3 inches taller with bigger hands. And you know what they say about big handed WRs? They catch the fkn ball.

So i guess the women are right and size does matter. LOL

 

[Cerberus]

Jacksonville (from New Orleans) Christopher Prosinski S Wyoming

What he brings: Prosinski is a productive player who is good against the run and can contribute on special teams.
How he fits: Jacksonville tried six different safety combinations in 2010 and good pass offenses torched them down the seams. Courtney Greene, Sean Considine and Don Carey are all guys without great cover skills, and with a marginal pass rush up front they get really exposed. The Jags could use two new guys and more depth and Prosinski is a step in the right direction

 

[Coachnorm]

I think the lockout has really forced teams to draft the most talented players on their board. If it also happens to be a need position, then that's just gravy. Jax won't find stars at WR or DE in the third round round; not with all those d-lineman that have been drafted. It was a good draft year for DL but that pool was drained. At this point, any WR or DL they draft will be depth at best.

So let them draft whatever player is talented enough to become a starter, then address the needs when FA/trading is allowed. Ray Edwards or Kiwanuka would be nice targets.

Orgazmo hits the nail right on the head here. Great fantasy football mind and Sports Outlaw IBL er. It becomes a numbers game after awhile. You would like to get a sure fire starter in the draft but after a certain point it won't happen. When you draft D linemen only the first five or six are surefire starters with great production, the next 10 -12 are more along the line of a new upgrade for your rotation guy on the D line. So in the second round if all you are going to get is a upgrade to your rotation guy better to pick a guy somewhere else who can start. All these d lineman are going to push out a experienced rotation guy on the teams they go to. All these guys will become available in FA. Out of 15 or so there will be a few duds but there are also going to be a few quality players being dropped more for money reasons than anything else. You can find a starter gem here, you may have to overpay a bit for a couple of years, but then that also gives you a couple years to find a starter D lineman in the draft.

 

[Runnik's Hambones]

This draft was all about taking best value available over positional needs.

 

[Remote Controller]

I think the lockout has really forced teams to draft the most talented players on their board. If it also happens to be a need position, then that's just gravy. Jax won't find stars at WR or DE in the third round round; not with all those d-lineman that have been drafted. It was a good draft year for DL but that pool was drained. At this point, any WR or DL they draft will be depth at best.

So let them draft whatever player is talented enough to become a starter, then address the needs when FA/trading is allowed. Ray Edwards or Kiwanuka would be nice targets.

The lockout also aided in allowing the good teams to get better. This draft was deep, and many squads felt forced by the lockout to reach for their QB. The good teams had their Qb and grabbed falling talent. Great situation for playoff teams all around.

 

[bobbeaux]

This draft was all about taking best value available over positional needs.

unless of course a qb was needed in which case value was thrown out the window . . . lol