Fitzgerald #2 overall???

wisfinfan05

New Member
I don't think anyone on here is going to agree with any WR going #2 overall. If you picked on the tail end of round 1 and could then follow up with a RB that would be different. The drop off of RB from #2 to #24 is too great to go WR at the #2 spot. If you already are dead set on Fitz at #2 and aren't going to listen to any of us then I'll refer to advice my dad game me as a kid. Don't ask the question unless you really want to know the answer.

No I am listening to your advice. Thats why I posted it on this thread. It is just an idea I had and wanted to swing it by you guys. All I was trying to do was show you my point of veiw and why I was consider Fitz so early. Knowing that my fellow owners will take 12-14 WR before I pick again here is alittle break down of what my team might look like.

Lets say I take Forte...My first three picks would/could be....

Forte-Chad Ocho-Santonio Holmes or
Forte-TO-Vincent Jackson

Lets say I take Moss/Fitz...

Moss/Fitz-Brandon Jacobs-Ronnie Brown or

Moss/Fitz-Ryan Grant-Brain Westbrook

Im not saying it will work out exactly like that. But grabbing an elite WR should start a nice run on recievers leaving a some pretty good runningbacks available. I still appriciate all your imput.
 

Sylock

New Member
I missed your scoring, but here's what I see then. If you are PPR you could be MJD and Westbrook for your RBs (two top 6 by anyone's reasoning) and then 'decent' WR. If you watch the waiver wire there is always a couple WRs that end up being studs that NO ONE picked. If you aren't PPR, then Forte, Jacobs/Brown/Westbrook, and (if 12-14 WRs went then there are bound to be one of the top 2 or 3 QBs there too) a top QB or a 'decent' WR. Everyone will be loading up on RBs in rounds 3 and 4 while you wait and watch only 4-6 WR go in those two rounds. Let everyone do their WR-WR thing, you pick up two top 6 RBs, and one more position ... then watch very few WRs go in rounds 3 and 4.
 

Coachnorm

Moderator
Unorthodox, Yes. Bad, no.

In one of my drafts only one team went WR-WR. If 3 owners had gone WR-WR it would have left 2 more RBs available. the last 3 RBs to be picked before my turn were Jacobs, Portis and Westy, so you could speculate that at least two of them might have been available.

I picked Forte second.
 

Bull

New Member
Im not saying it will work out exactly like that. But grabbing an elite WR should start a nice run on recievers leaving a some pretty good runningbacks available. I still appriciate all your imput.

That's the point. It won't work out that way. You pick #2 overall. You're not going to start a WR run just because you pick a WR at #2. Starting a WR run is feasible if you picked toward the end of round 1 not when you're picking #2 overall. More likely is the other owners will intentionally gobble up the good RBs so you're screwed for your 2nd round pick.
 

wisfinfan05

New Member
Unorthodox, Yes. Bad, no.

In one of my drafts only one team went WR-WR. If 3 owners had gone WR-WR it would have left 2 more RBs available. the last 3 RBs to be picked before my turn were Jacobs, Portis and Westy, so you could speculate that at least two of them might have been available.

I picked Forte second.

In a perfect world my roster would be....


Fitz/Moss-Ronnie Brown-Brandon Jacobs/Ryan Grant.

or

Forte-TJ House-Roy Williams

or

Forte-Ronnie Brown/Brandon Jacobs-TJ House


I felt like the WR talent falls off more quickly than the RBs. Plus more value with middle round RBs than WRs. Question for those of you who think I should pick Forte/MJD (which one would you pick?) and who should I target at WR in the second round? Than in the third (WR? or RB?).
 

Coachnorm

Moderator
Again I will point out that I did go with Forte at #2. When I looked at last years scoring Fitz was the top scoring WR. but ten RBs scored more. But you do seen to have a plan to put together a team of players you like and have figured out how to get them. While I like drafting for value I am more about an owner getting the players they want rather than, is this the best value because of ADP because ADP often isn't right in the end.
 

Sylock

New Member
I like MJD and Forte equally, and don't think you can go wrong either way. My advice for you is to take one night and run 5-10 mock drafts assigning some of the teams to go WR-WR, some go RB-WR, etc as you see fit. The thing with the second round of a draft ... people get emotional. Some guy at 2.02 believes he has his QB lined up with Brady, then all of a sudden 2.01 takes Brady, the guy gets nervous because his whole plan was to go RB-QB and not have to worry about QB again, so he panics and picks up Brees. Then someone else who thought they had either Brady or Brees decides that there is a huge drop off after the top 3 QBs and picks up manning. There is a mini QB run when you could care less and weren't planning on doing a QB for the first 6 rounds.
I usually run through a bunch of mock drafts for the first 4 rounds and believe I have most of the scenerios understood. Then I find Ronnie Brown dropping to the 4.08 (pick 44)?

Anyway, if you have time, run through most of the scenerios in the first 4 rounds. If you see a big run on WR in the first two rounds, what does that mean they are picking in rounds 3 and 4? There may not be a drop in WR from your 2nd pick to your 4th/5th pick since everyone is going to have to pick up a couple runningbacks in the first 4 rounds. Thus, if ther are only 3 or 4 WRs that get picked between your 2nd/3rd pick and your 4th/5th pick .... could you go RB-RB-(top 3 QB)? And have two top 10 RBs and a top 3 QB ... then move to two 15-20 WR?
 

true21

New Member
i understand where the OP is coming from. i play in a ppr yahoo league where draft order isnt determined until 30 min before the draft. i"m strongly considering a WR in the 1st round unless i get #1.
granted, im in a ppr league and taking fitz/moss/aj at #2 is a bit more "mainstream" but i can't say i disagree with the idea that the top wr's will be gone by the end of the 2nd round and there should be some nice rb's still.

i actually did a mock ppr draft on mockdraftcentral.com and took AJ 2nd. about 5 people in the room went nuts right away but a couple of guys werent surprised.
 

Miller

Who Dey
Administrator
If this was a ppr leauge you could make the thought to take Fitz....but since it's not I would not advise it. Take MJD. Your fear about WR's in a non-ppr league is over blown. Let e1 else go with the WR craze (and for the record I am a big WR/WR guy when the value is right) and sit with MJD and scoop up another Stud back and Brees or Brady at the corner. If everyone is going WR/WR as you say, you should get a steal at the corner in value at RB. You now have 2 4's which will allow you to work on your WR's, by then others will panic at their RB's and switch gears allowing there to be decent value there. You alos may be able to get a stud TE there as well.

Bottom line is don't be a sheep and let your league mates dictate what you do, let them take the poor value and stack up else where. Your team will be much better for it. i also am willing to bet come draft day, not as many WR's go as high as many are blowing smoke about in your league.
 
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