Fantasy Player of the Year???

[Miller]

I know, still a couple of weeks left, but who comes to mind when you start looking at the fantasy player of the season?

Here are a few names:

• Michael Vick - Missed 3 games and is still #2 in overall pts at the QB position. His ppg average is 5 pts higher that Aaron Rodgers who is sitting at #2. Has a good shot of being the top scorer in fantasy despite missing the 3 games.
• Arian Foster - Class of the RB's this year. He is #1 by a larger margin despite having not played his week 14 game yet. He is averaging over 3 pts more a game than the next highest RB.
• Adrian Peterson - A consistent workhorse. If he can finish strong he could threaten Foster if he stumbles.
• Antonio Gates - This is just a what could have been mention....if not for his injury he was making a great case. Even with it, when is on the field he is a match-up breaker for fantasy owners. He averages 5 pts a game more than any other TE when he has played this year. Through week 8, he was a run a way winner....too bad the injury took away his shot.

For me....this is Mike Vick's to lose! He is simply the scariest fantasy player to go up against this year.

Anyone I missed? the one guy I would keep an eye on due to his abilities and his schedule is DMac.....kid has a great playoff schdule and he keeps having days like yesterday you may be discussing him in this conversation before the year is over.

Another interesting note is that other than AP, no one I have here was drafted early.....

 

[jjtweeks]

Position of draft

i would have to say Foster just because he has played every game. If Vick would have played every game i would say him. Vick was maybe a little more for the money in draft position but Foster was so consistent the whole season. AP is a beast but we expected that from him. Gates played above my expectations but the health was an issue and he was drafted pretty quick in most leagues. Dwayne Bowe could be a candidate but these last few games havent been so great. And don't forget Mcfadden. These guys overproduced the average draft pick by far.

 

[Beermutts]

Peyton Hillis comes to mind.

 

[jjtweeks]

wow

Duh. hah, I can't believe I forgot him. I would have to say it is between him and Foster.

 

[Miller]

Not really looking for who the best value was....just who was the best?

Hillis has been a rock and carried my RB's in BWW's....but I'm not sure he's on the same level as Foster. He is currently right there with AP, but AP has not played this week. If AP has a big week he could separate himself a little. Hillis is currently 4th in ppg for RB's (Foster, AP, DMac, Hillis) and tonight's games could impact that either way. Hillis could get hot down the stretch as well, but his schedule toughens up after he feasts on the Bengals next week.

I also get the consistency argument on Foster vs Vick. But damn has Vick been scary good when healthy.

 

[Miller]

As far as Bowe or even someone like Roddy White goes....I can't see a WR grabbing this title this year. Just a "meh" year from WR's overall IMO.

 

[Orgazmo]

Vick just doesn't let you down. He can be good or extraordinary, but never bad for your team.

 

[jjtweeks]

sidetracked

Your right, I got a little sidetracked on best value(save for another post I guess). No question then to me. Foster unless something happens down the stretch. My vote would only go to soemone who has played every game of the season. What is a great fantasy player if he is not there when you need him, even if for one game. i do think you have to take value into consideration a little because hillis has probably won many games for people who did not expect to with them. (Foster more than him). So for a "fantasy mvp" value would tip the scales of Hillis over AP but not Foster.
My fantasy mvp voting
1 Foster
2 Hillis
3 Ap
4 Vick
5 Brady
3 games missed is a lot in a fantasy season

 

[Phicinfan]

For now I say Foster. And quite honestly, I don't think this is close. First Houston would not have won a game this year without Foster, and I think alot of teams that got Foster as late in the draft as they did can say the same.

Secondly, Foster has just been consistant to the point of automatic. If he doesn't go off, Houston loses. Can't say the same for Vick.

While I am an Eagles fan, Vick isn't Vick if he doesn't have Jackson and Maclin and McCoy. Foster has been a one man show in some games. Especially without A.J. there.

I would order it:
Foster
Vick
Hillis

 

[Vicious_Machine]

Not really looking for who the best value was....just who was the best?

Hillis has been a rock and carried my RB's in BWW's....but I'm not sure he's on the same level as Foster. He is currently right there with AP, but AP has not played this week. If AP has a big week he could separate himself a little. Hillis is currently 4th in ppg for RB's (Foster, AP, DMac, Hillis) and tonight's games could impact that either way. Hillis could get hot down the stretch as well, but his schedule toughens up after he feasts on the Bengals next week.

I also get the consistency argument on Foster vs Vick. But damn has Vick been scary good when healthy.

If this is what we are looking at, who cares if Houston wins a game if Foster is there or not? But does it not really depend on your format.

In most, I think it is Foster. But at QB, I think it has to be Brady? He just has more points then Vick. Who cares if Vick has missed games, if we are talking Fantasy Player of the Year, it should be based on who has done the most on the OVERALL year, not who has the done the most when they have "played". At least I dont give Vick credit for missing games, he's a running QB, if your taking those points when he is running, you have to live with the downside that he can get popped on any play and miss time.

 

[Sgt John]

Michael Vick.

 

[Miller]

Well I guess scoring system will determine if that is the case or not. If you get 4 pts per pa TD, Vick has scored just slightly more (in 3 less games!) and in 6 pt per pa leagues Brady has scored more. Also, if you go by simply who has the most points, Rodgers has the most in 4 pt per TD leagues. I don't give Vick credit for missing the games...but if can outscore everyone in 3 less games...DAMN! I also care about winning...and winning titles! Vick is giving owners a huge leg up each time the play. A very large % of Vick owners are playing in the playoffs and he is likely carring them.

Hired Guns: 4 pt per TD
Vick - 255.82
Brady - 255.12

6 pt per TD:
Vick - 276
Brady - 300

If this is what we are looking at, who cares if Houston wins a game if Foster is there or not? But does it not really depend on your format.

In most, I think it is Foster. But at QB, I think it has to be Brady? He just has more points then Vick. Who cares if Vick has missed games, if we are talking Fantasy Player of the Year, it should be based on who has done the most on the OVERALL year, not who has the done the most when they have "played". At least I dont give Vick credit for missing games, he's a running QB, if your taking those points when he is running, you have to live with the downside that he can get popped on any play and miss time.

 

[Remote Controller]

I would order it:
Foster
Vick
Hillis

This is right on.

 

[Phicinfan]

Well I guess scoring system will determine if that is the case or not. If you get 4 pts per pa TD, Vick has scored just slightly more (in 3 less games!) and in 6 pt per pa leagues Brady has scored more. Also, if you go by simply who has the most points, Rodgers has the most in 4 pt per TD leagues. I don't give Vick credit for missing the games...but if can outscore everyone in 3 less games...DAMN! I also care about winning...and winning titles! Vick is giving owners a huge leg up each time the play. A very large % of Vick owners are playing in the playoffs and he is likely carring them.

Hired Guns: 4 pt per TD
Vick - 255.82
Brady - 255.12

6 pt per TD:
Vick - 276
Brady - 300

Then my argument wins, as in that same Hired Guns scoring, Foster is at 325.20 for the year. Almost 70pts better.

Now, before you say...but Vick missed three games......then to me that makes Foster even more a vote, since he has not missed any...and you can count on his points.

 

[Birdman]

It's Michael Vick or Peyton Hillis due to their ADP. Foster, although a steal, was being drafted in the 4th or 5th rounds of some of my leagues.

If Foster deserves consideration I think Hakeem Nicks does, too.

 

[mudloggerone]

Foster for me hands down. Vick if he'd have played the entire year would have swept it.

 

[Miller]

Let's revisit this now that the fantasy season for the most part is over. It looks like this is basically down to a discussion between Vick and Foster.

With all 16 weeks played out, Vick (despite missing 3 games) was the #1 QB in every scoring system I use in my league (in one 6 pt per TD league he and Brady tied). He pts per game average was over 5 pts higher than the next closest in most leagues. He also closed very well in the playoffs. His numbers were good in both 14 & 16 and outstanding in 15. If you had Vick in the playoffs, chances are you did very well.

Foster in basic scoring leagues came in under Vick's pt totals, but came in higher than him in ppr leagues (but still lower in ppg). He was also dominant at his position outscoring the next highest RB by just over 4 ppg in most leagues. Foster did not have quite the same success in the fantasy playoffs though. In his last 3 games, Foster had 2 of his 5 lowest pt outputs of the season. His week 15 performance left many of his owners booted from the playoffs thinking what could have been (in ppr leagues, his 6 rec that week saved face a little, but still not what owners expected from him).

Both had outstanding seasons, but I know in many leagues I was in, Vick carried the day in the playoffs. Due to this and him outdistancing his entire positions despite missing the 3 games in the first 1/2 of the season, mike Vick would be my fantasy MVP. Foster for me just came up too small when it mattered the most.

What does everyone else think?

 

[Remote Controller]

Let's revisit this now that the fantasy season for the most part is over. It looks like this is basically down to a discussion between Vick and Foster.

With all 16 weeks played out, Vick (despite missing 3 games) was the #1 QB in every scoring system I use in my league (in one 6 pt per TD league he and Brady tied). He pts per game average was over 5 pts higher than the next closest in most leagues. He also closed very well in the playoffs. His numbers were good in both 14 & 16 and outstanding in 15. If you had Vick in the playoffs, chances are you did very well.

Foster in basic scoring leagues came in under Vick's pt totals, but came in higher than him in ppr leagues (but still lower in ppg). He was also dominant at his position outscoring the next highest RB by just over 4 ppg in most leagues. Foster did not have quite the same success in the fantasy playoffs though. In his last 3 games, Foster had 2 of his 5 lowest pt outputs of the season. His week 15 performance left many of his owners booted from the playoffs thinking what could have been (in ppr leagues, his 6 rec that week saved face a little, but still not what owners expected from him).

Both had outstanding seasons, but I know in many leagues I was in, Vick carried the day in the playoffs. Due to this and him outdistancing his entire positions despite missing the 3 games in the first 1/2 of the season, mike Vick would be my fantasy MVP. Foster for me just came up too small when it mattered the most.

What does everyone else think?

......and Vick was basically undrafted and foster reached for in the mids!! Amazing hobby we all try to compete in!

 

[derringer007]

Although M.Vick is a great comeback story and proved he is alot better than his mediocre days in Atlanta

A.Foster is the clear winner,

 

[Miller]

Although M.Vick is a great comeback story and proved he is alot better than his mediocre days in Atlanta

A.Foster is the clear winner,

Please expand on how he is the "clear" winner....not saying you are wrong, but I do think this is anything but clear. Foster let his owners down when it mattered the most while the Vick teams cleaned up in the playoffs. Vick outscored everyone at his position in 3 less games. Vick's ppg difference over the #2 QB was greater than Foster's ppg difference over the next highest RB. The only thing that Foster has appeared to do is play all 16 games......but his disapearance act in the playoffs to me is a bigger deal than missing 3 games in the reg season.

Just looking for the reasoning on why this is so "clearly" Foster in your mind..... There is a great discussion to be had here, let's hear both sides!