DMac - Fully healthy? Big 2012?

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Word is that DMac is fully healthy and his goal is 1800 ru yds. What do you expect from DMac this year? When healthy, he's been one of the best RB's of the last 2 years.

Where wouyld you draft him in a 12 team redraft?
 
He has the potential, I just don't think he can handle the carries though. I think he breaks down again. But he could be a monster while healthy though.
 
He's still a late first/early second type of guy. I'd lean to taking receiver quarterback combos early on since RBs have been taking a beating the last few years. And even when they don't they might not justify a high pick, right Chris Johnson?
 
you can get the same points in later rounds also - not sure what youre getting at. Last I checked both Foster and AP missed multiple games too. My 1st rounder didnt miss any
 
gizzil said:
you can get the same points in later rounds also - not sure what youre getting at. Last I checked both Foster and AP missed multiple games too. My 1st rounder didnt miss any
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so....if your drafting in the top 5 in a non-ppr league, your not taking a RB??
 
gizzil said:
you can get the same points in later rounds also - not sure what youre getting at. Last I checked both Foster and AP missed multiple games too. My 1st rounder didnt miss any
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You can get the same points in the later rounds at any position if you get fortunate enough. Chances are much better taking the front line players like Foster, Rice, MJD and McCoy just like they are taking front line receivers like Calvin Johnson and Fitz or front line QBs like Rodgers, Brees and Brady. There's just a few top end RBs that are every down backs, so that makes them more valuable.

I hope everyone in my leagues this year take the same approach. A backfield of Foster and McCoy would be awesome, PPR or standard scoring.

And congrats on being able to predict injury. It's a rare gift I guess.......................
 
it is much easier to predict injury with a RB... They all get injured. so you have a pretty good shot at predicting
 
gizzil said:
got the same points from Gore/tate/beanie/murray that guys who had foster/ap/mccoy did
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No you didn't.

Foster, McCoy and ADP had 45 TDs between them compared to 24 for the Gore, Beanie, Tate and Murray quartet. Don't even get me started on the receiving yards. Not sure how you do the math, but it doesn't add up.

Plus, you can pull random guys and make that argument on any position. Well, I got virtually the same production out of Newton, Eli and Stafford in the 8th or later than guys got for Rodgers, Brees and Brady early. Jordy Nelson outperformed everyone except Calvin in standard scoring. Why take Calvin in the 1st when I can get Nelson in the 10th? Gronk and Graham outperformed Whitten and Gates, so why not wait on a TE until the 10th round or so?

To make a random statement like you shouldn't take a RB in the 1st is foolish. 3 down backs are a rarity now, so those guys are valued more. I do agree that after the first 4-5 RBs, that I would take the top WRs and QBs before I grab the McFaddens and Charles of the world. But give me Foster, Rice and McCoy in the top three regardless of scoring.
 
I generally don't take Rbs in the first round. Then again, I tend to end up at the middle or end of the first round.

As for IF there are RBs worth taking in the first, yes there are. But not all that many. I would say Rice, McCoy, Foster and Jones-Drew for non ppr leagues. IN ppr leagues I would definately target Rice, McCoy and maybe even Sproles for N.O. then Foster and Jones-Drew.

I simply can't and won't pull the trigger on ADP this year, coming off a major knee issue. He may be fine, but not worth a first round early pick.

I agree somewhat with Gizzil though, if I can nab A.Johnson or C.Johnson in the first, then Fitz in early second, I can get Rbs later and will beat you in a league this year, regardless if you have Drew or ADP or Foster.
 
Noboody had Ap, mccoy, and foster though, the very fact that they are taken so early means you get only 1
 
Phicinfan said:
I generally don't take Rbs in the first round. Then again, I tend to end up at the middle or end of the first round.

As for IF there are RBs worth taking in the first, yes there are. But not all that many. I would say Rice, McCoy, Foster and Jones-Drew for non ppr leagues. IN ppr leagues I would definately target Rice, McCoy and maybe even Sproles for N.O. then Foster and Jones-Drew.

I simply can't and won't pull the trigger on ADP this year, coming off a major knee issue. He may be fine, but not worth a first round early pick.

I agree somewhat with Gizzil though, if I can nab A.Johnson or C.Johnson in the first, then Fitz in early second, I can get Rbs later and will beat you in a league this year, regardless if you have Drew or ADP or Foster.
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Well, yeah, you can win with virtually any stratgy in the first round, IF you draft well thoughout the entire draft and hit on the RBs you draft later. But those RBs you draft later are bigger crap shots. I can take two top RBs in the first two rounds and grab WRs later too. Lots of them available, but you have to hit on them as they are also bigger crap shoots.

However to say that there aren't RBs worth drafting in the first round is just plain stupid. You listed 4 in standard and 5 in PPR (although I wouldn't put Sproles in the first round in either), so I guess you would agree.............
 
I just said i wouldn't do it. sure, some are worth it. But last year in several drafts i watched jamaal charles go @ #1/#2, alotta Foster 1/2. And Alotta AP MJD 2/3. In one league where the QB only gets 4 pts for a TD, I ended up w AP and Brees (10 team league) I can't remember who i got 1st, probably AP, but it totally screwed me in the end. The likelihood of your RB getting injured during the season is 100%. The likelihood of him to get sidelined multiple games or worse, out for the season or a chunk of it, has to be exponentially higher than other positions. I just think we are seeing less RB's early in drafts, and quite frankly I dont mind being middle to late in Rd 1 cuz I can get one of the top QBs unfailingly. And an early pick in Rd 2 assures you A top receiver or a very elite RB. Even if I wouldnt, having a top 3 or so pick almost compells you to, i get that. I just hope not to get that pick haha - basically, theres no way i let my 1st rounder be a DMac. No way. I agree if he's going to put together a full year, it SHOULD be this one. But if the price is 1st round - hhhhhhhheeeeeeeelll nah
 
efactor said:
Well, yeah, you can win with virtually any stratgy in the first round, IF you draft well thoughout the entire draft and hit on the RBs you draft later. But those RBs you draft later are bigger crap shots. I can take two top RBs in the first two rounds and grab WRs later too. Lots of them available, but you have to hit on them as they are also bigger crap shoots.

However to say that there aren't RBs worth drafting in the first round is just plain stupid. You listed 4 in standard and 5 in PPR (although I wouldn't put Sproles in the first round in either), so I guess you would agree.............
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Very good, yes I basically agreed with you in that there may be 4 or 5 worth taking in the first.

I argue the crap shoot though on value of Rbs in later rounds.

I can tell you my experience, and that is if you want ANY DECENT Wr pts, you have to get at least 2 by round 4, or a high value TE by round 4. The bigger better value Wrs are farther between to me, than the Rbs. Middle to later round rbs like Stewart, Bush(Mia), Sproles(per your pt), Turner and so on can be gotten in drafts after late 3rd round. Hell I got Fred Jackson in 8 or 9 and he was the top Rb for half the damn season. Tell me a Wr you got that late that did that?
 
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