Close Call #15: Aaron Rodgers vs Kurt Warner
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But why? Injury? So we're predicting injury now? Good luck with that. Rodgers is not exactly what I'd call an NFL tough guy. If you eliminate injury out of the discussion, which IMO you have to because no one can predict injury, we're asking who will digress. You argue superbowl loser, blah, blah, blah. I could also say that last year was like Rodgers rookie year and that he will have a sophmore slump or that an improved run game will hurt him. I'm not ready to say that either. So after dismissing both of those arguements (digression and injury), I'm left with preferring ARZ #2 and #3 WRs over GB #2 and #3 WR.
This is a tired argument.
Other than last season, how long has it been since Warner was not dinged up or hurt? Granted the year before he was not the starter until later....
He is over 40. For a Qb that is near ancient. He is NOT Favre, who plays through injury. He has history of getting injured. He is also slower than molassis in a snow storm. He WILL get hurt. He WILL NOT finish the season. Like it, don't like it, pull this up at the end of the year if you like. But it will happen. Arizona is going to really be bad this year. They caught lightning in a bottle....the bottle will now be broken.
As for Rodger's and sophmore slump..yes you absolutely could. And you may be correct. But to my knowledge...that doesn't happen often with Qbs. No real change in Wrs or offense for Rodgers means better shot to repeat than an aging Warner.
comegetDATnguyen
New Member
Hey guys,
Long time lurker and finally decided to post, just wanted to throw some of my thoughts on this.
First of, Warner is 38...not over 40 years of age just yet.
He is an injury risk but the guy is still a fantasy stud. He's got a great arm coupled with a high completion % and has the supporting cast to put up great numbers (Fitz, Boldin, Breaston). I'm not sold on Wells or Hightower and quite frankly, this team is not built on the running game. Their success last year was mainly through the passing game and I just dont see them detering away from that. He threw for 2+ TDs in 10 games last year and throws for a ton of yardage, meaning he'll get you points each week.
With the mocks I have done so far, Rodgers is going way ahead of Warner and that means a few things:
1) people are spending too high of a pick on QBs, something I wouldn't do with all the value to be had this year at the QB position
2) Warner actually might be a great value pick in the middle rounds
Drafting a decent back-up is a must and there are plenty of guys with high upside that can be had in the late rounds.
I know this is a debate on Warner-Rodgers but it's so close for me, you'll have to go on personal preference.
If you think Rodgers can take a step forward and become elite this year, he should be your guy. In a keeper league, it's a no-brainer.
If you're still not sold on Rodgers, Warner makes for a fine pick.
Looking forward to the season...
cctekguy
Staff member
Nice to hear from you DAT!
This whole debate has got me thinking about something.
First of all, why is it that Favre (at 40), after a very average season, playing for a new team, with untested WR's, is seeing his value rise and is anticipated to be "just what the Vikings Need", yet Warner (at 38), after a Banner season, surrounded by known and proven WR's, on a Super Bowl team, is regarded as "high risk", brittle and over the hill?
Secondly, Unless my light research on Arizona is askew, The Cards made no off season or draft play for a QB. St. Pierre and Palko are not considered contenders nor future talent.
Somebody must know something we (I) don't know. Either there is no real fear in Az. that Warner can't or won't play healthy for the entire season, or that Leinart is STILL considered the QB of the future and has the confidence of the Cardinals organization. (A condition that I thought disintegrated last year.
Does anyone reading this consider Leinart the future and Heir apparent in AZ?
This whole debate has got me thinking about something.
First of all, why is it that Favre (at 40), after a very average season, playing for a new team, with untested WR's, is seeing his value rise and is anticipated to be "just what the Vikings Need", yet Warner (at 38), after a Banner season, surrounded by known and proven WR's, on a Super Bowl team, is regarded as "high risk", brittle and over the hill?
Secondly, Unless my light research on Arizona is askew, The Cards made no off season or draft play for a QB. St. Pierre and Palko are not considered contenders nor future talent.
Somebody must know something we (I) don't know. Either there is no real fear in Az. that Warner can't or won't play healthy for the entire season, or that Leinart is STILL considered the QB of the future and has the confidence of the Cardinals organization. (A condition that I thought disintegrated last year.
Does anyone reading this consider Leinart the future and Heir apparent in AZ?
Mike
Administrator
Something else to watch with Warner, which has to make people drafting early just a little nervous, is the fact that Anquan Boldin could still be traded, especially since there had been talks with Baltimore in the past and the fact that they are now in need of a receiver unless Mason changes his mind.
comegetDATnguyen
New Member
Personally, I know I would not be comfortable at all with Lienart as my QB1, I'm sure as most wouldn't. I think he could be a decent fill-up until he proves that he can be effective in the NFL. Having those weapons around sure does help and would be intriguing to have on any roster as a "let's hold and see what happens with this guy" type of player.
To further this...he HAD those same tools before, and lost his starting job TO warner in the first place. So no....if Warner goes down...so does Arizona and most of the players value.