You don't think that the appendectomy could have had something to do with that? Some say he rushed back from this... Could have impacted performance some.
CJ Anderson
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Not buying that.... And the TD comparisons are a little much.... Can't came up with anything in this century? Game has changed just a little and so has Kubiak.... Add to that, you saw TD in the Kubiak system, you haven't seen Anderson in it... Some take to the zone blocking scheme very well, some dont... Maybe Ball is actually the TD???
Manning is still Manning as well.... Which will create opportunities, but limit some upside at the same time.
Anderson is costing you a first now.... So you have to compare him to other first round running backs that have proven their upside.... I think the upside of AP for instance is far more above Andersons in his revenge tour. Lacy is still developing and hasn't shown his full ceiling yet.... Murray showed what an injury prone Rb who could stay healthy could do behind that oline....huge upside potential for any Rb in Dallas.
Look, not saying he's not good, not saying he doesn't have upside.... But to say he has the highest upside of any back in the league is just a bit much..... And again, if you dont take Ball with Anderson you are exposing yourself to the possibility of a huge miss on the upside. In reality, the upside it with the offense and the position much more than it is with Anderson or any Rb for that matter.
Where in the world is Anderson going in the 3rd at?
So just checked some ADP's on him.... Current ADP on FFC is 2.4 with a range of 1.6 to 2.12. So in the 345 drafts in that calculation he has not made it to the 3rd once, so this isn't close to a 3rd Rd back you are framing him as.
Also may not be fair to compare him to the elite at the position either.
His ADP is on a clear upswing and who knows where it will stop . I think he'll settle around the turn like Ball did last year once drafts heat up. That puts him in the area of McCoy, forte, foster, Murray And Hill.
I think this a perfect group for him and matches the risk and upside of him and others in this group. Hill is a very interesting one as another Rb who performed very well down the stretch and is in a great offense scheme and has actually performed in that offense. I would say that Anderson's upside is very similar to all the backs in that group.
Also may not be fair to compare him to the elite at the position either.
His ADP is on a clear upswing and who knows where it will stop . I think he'll settle around the turn like Ball did last year once drafts heat up. That puts him in the area of McCoy, forte, foster, Murray And Hill.
I think this a perfect group for him and matches the risk and upside of him and others in this group. Hill is a very interesting one as another Rb who performed very well down the stretch and is in a great offense scheme and has actually performed in that offense. I would say that Anderson's upside is very similar to all the backs in that group.
Remote Controller
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Well as always, this is opinion and I have mine on CJ, and yes the comparison to TD is very real in my mind.
ExperiencedRookie
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I still contend that if he truly does work out and turn into a top 5 fantasy RB, the most comparable RB would be Arian Foster. Both went undrafted, both could blow up in a huge way in a zone blocking Kubiak scheme.
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He's not, that's my point. ER said he would not take him until the 4th, so I said he was being foolish if he passed on him in the 3rd because nobody in the 3rd has his upside. Didn't say he had more upside than anyone.
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Which means ER would be foolish to pass on him in the 3rd......................
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Could have I guess. Or could be he just isn't that good.
ExperiencedRookie
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Why would that be foolish? Just because he has an ADP of 2.02 or whatever. If I don't believe in him and dnt want him, how does that make me foolish?
Would I have been foolish if I passed on Montee Ball in the 3rd round last year for similar reasons?
Ahh... Now that I agree with... MisreadHe's not, that's my point. ER said he would not take him until the 4th, so I said he was being foolish if he passed on him in the 3rd because nobody in the 3rd has his upside. Didn't say he had more upside than anyone.
I agree..... But maybe for a different reason. Here is why.... Perceived value. Chances are if u can steal him there you can trade him very easily for a nice value in return.
I get not liking someone, but at some point the perceived value of others can create great trade value.
Yep, bc someone will always be there to give you a good return on the trade front. Take me and trade em baby!
I guess I still don't understand it... TD wasn't new to that system... He showed what he could do on a limited basis in the Kubiak system right?
Has CJ been in the zone blocking, one cut and go scheme Kubiak runs before? If so, I wasn't aware and changes things some. If not, he's still entering a new system with a lot of unknowns.... That it's the only point I am trying to make.
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A little blub from last week at Bronco's camp. Manning loves the guy and that goes a long way in Bronco land:
Peyton Manning went out of his way to talk up C.J. Anderson Wednesday.
Anderson is splitting first-team reps with Montee Ball. We know that Peyton will have a big say on who is with him in the backfield. "C.J. of course, if you talk to him you think he's about a 12-year veteran starter and he's only started six games," Manning said. "I'm getting a ton of reps with him, and the sky is the limit for him, I will say that."
Peyton Manning went out of his way to talk up C.J. Anderson Wednesday.
Anderson is splitting first-team reps with Montee Ball. We know that Peyton will have a big say on who is with him in the backfield. "C.J. of course, if you talk to him you think he's about a 12-year veteran starter and he's only started six games," Manning said. "I'm getting a ton of reps with him, and the sky is the limit for him, I will say that."
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Yep.
ExperiencedRookie
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...hints-that-montee-ball-could-have-a-big-year/
That's from last year. Peyton saying the same stuff about Montee Ball.
Just because Peyton praises the RB and says he'll have a big year, it doesn't make it so