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But is it really a double standard in this case??? Again, this happens all the time in Ohio courts. We are talking about traffic violations, reducing these are extremely common place. Are you saying that they don't reduce traffic violations in your area?
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Reduce , don't reduce, i don't give a rats ass, either way its wreckless driving and he gets no punishment. Thats it in a nutshell. He broke the law and should be punished not let go just because he is an athlete.
 
The judge missed an excellent chance to make an example out of him IMO. One that might have made a positive influence on some young persons life. Hail it might have saved a life but we'll never know. Miller is right in that many non-super star citizens get chargers reduced but in this case the judge dropped the ball.
 
mudloggerone said:
The judge missed an excellent chance to make an example out of him IMO. One that might have made a positive influence on some young persons life. Hail it might have saved a life but we'll never know. Miller is right in that many non-super star citizens get chargers reduced but in this case the judge dropped the ball.
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I gonna have to disagree with you on this one Mud. Why should he be made an example out of because he is an NFL player? Sounds like he got the same treatment that anyone else would have gotten in that situation, especially if it was his first offense..............
 
He's a super star "E." They set the examples that kids follow. Not saying you should agree with me, just stating my own feelings.
 
Cerberus said:
You just don't get it. Your one of the ones that okays this behavior and keeps going to the games, buying merchadise and screaming, at least he didn't do what so - so did. As long as you make it ok in your head then its all good. Personally i have higher morals and these idiots are suppose to be role models for the next generation. Breaking the law by doing 109/55 and getting it dropped to 99/55 just so he doesnt lose his license tells them what again? So keep justifing it all you want but this double standard BS needs to stop.
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Well, you're wrong on this too. I don't justify outlandish behavior by athletes, especially abuse of women. To suggest your morals are higher than anyone else on this board who disagrees with you about the punishment handed down to an athlete for speeding is sort of amusing............

However, I will excuse this particular behavior by ADP as a mistake in judgement, and I'm not quite ready to hand down the death penalty for speeding. Most people who go to court on a first offense where no damage was done get cut a break. Why shouldn't he get the same treatment because he is an athlete? It's wrong to make an example of him for that reason.

It's not a double standard if they treat people equally, which in this case, seems to have happened..............
 
mudloggerone said:
He's a super star "E." They set the examples that kids follow. Not saying you should agree with me, just stating my own feelings.
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It's all good................

I just think the athlete as a role model is inaccurate. I don't think most kids follow off the field behavior that is negative. I seriously doubt some 16 year old is more likely to go 105 just because ADP did.

Athletes shouldn't be role models, but they should be responsible citizens. ADP was irresponsible and should get the same treatment as anyone else. No better, no worse...............
 
efactor said:
I seriously doubt some 16 year old is more likely to go 105 just because ADP did.
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That's where you and I totally disagree. I'd bet a dollar to a doughnut some kid will drive 105 mph because his hero AP did it. Of course we'll never know which of us is right and which is wrong. BTW, will a dollar still buy a friggin' doughnut?
 
Cerberus said:
Reduce , don't reduce, i don't give a rats ass, either way its wreckless driving and he gets no punishment. Thats it in a nutshell. He broke the law and should be punished not let go just because he is an athlete.
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He received the same punishment I think about any other person with a similar record would have. I don't see where he was treated any differently b/c he was an athlete.

mudloggerone said:
The judge missed an excellent chance to make an example out of him IMO. One that might have made a positive influence on some young persons life. Hail it might have saved a life but we'll never know. Miller is right in that many non-super star citizens get chargers reduced but in this case the judge dropped the ball.
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Interesting contrast in comments from two that seem to be on similar sides of the discussion. Cerberus claims he was let off easy due to being an athlete....Mud feels that b/c he is an athlete he should be held to a higher standard. Love seeing others views on things and this is a great example why.

My take is, I think the judge would have dropped the ball if he treated him any differently than he would have if it was me in that room. I think a Judge's responsibility is to rule irregardless of the stature of the person involved. Using someone to set an example due to who they are IMO is just as big of an injustice as letting someone off light due to who they are.

In this case, I just feel that his case was treated in a way consistent with anyone else who hired an attorney to negotiate a plea on a traffic violation.
 
It would be interesting to know how many cases in the county there were that were not reduced below 100 mph. If there are any then I don't think your argument holds true Miller. If pretty much all of them are reduced then you're right and I'm wrong. I just pitty the kid who lost his license for busting 100 and it didn't get dropped.
 
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