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Another point over looked in this discussion of era's is how much better would Unitas have been in his WR's could have ran free like they do today? And let's talk Brees as well, how does his timing rhythm offense fare if his WR's were allowed to be mugged all the way down the field like they...

So in a run dominated league he was routinely identified as the most valuable ...yeah, I'd say that is separation. But u can have Brees.....nice QB, just not going down as an all time great.

So you claim first there was no separation....when provided facts that blow that claim out of the water you claim other QB's of his era were garbage.....so which is it, no separation or poor era???? Seems to me you are just pulling stuff out if the air now. Fact is Johnny U played in a run...

Johnny U didn't seperate himself? 10 X Pro Bowl 5 X First team all Pro 4 X MVP 4 X league champion (1 SB, 3 pre-SB era) Looks like seperation to me...... I love these types of debates!

I agree, if you are looking for a good QB on great teams.....I would take Aikman over Bradshaw.

Yet he is 3rd by most accounts in his own generation (Manning & Brady) and could end up behind someone like Rodgers as well......just don't see what makes him Mount worthy.....

That is the beauty of these discussions.....there is no criteria! You set up what is important to you in your mind and you compare the different eras the way you see it. For me, it's not all numbers. It's about setting yourself apart from your generation. Johnny U I feel did that easily.

If you team is relying on one of these for next year it will be a long year. Would like to see Vick start somewhere still. Other than that, some good back up candidates and some that will not be around.

For me the top 3 are easy.... Barry Sanders Jim Brown Walter Peyton The 4th was a little difficult, but in the end, going with a personal favorite: LaDainian Tomlinson

OK, let's continue this to the RB'S, again, no set criteria, how you select the 4 is up to you. Let's carve a MR of the greatest runners of all time.

Alright, let's carve the QB Outlaw Mountain.... 1. Peyton Manning - 6 votes 2. Joe Montana - 5 votes 3. Dan Marino - 4 votes 4. Johnny Unitas - 4 votes Just missed with 3 votes each - Favre and Elway.

Eli actually has more rings than his dad and brother combined.....

I too have been surprised you and I are the only 2 to include Johnny U. Never saw him play, but I can look into history and say I think he belongs.

I am a little surprised by the Brees love. I love the guy, just don't think of him when I think top all time.... Will admit, completely forgot Elway when I did this.....but will stick with my 4, but he makes me rethink Johnny U just a little, still sticking with him though, need some vintage on...

Hakeem Nicks - no tds this year.....tick. could rebound in a new setting, but fits the bill for now. Fred Davis - not a huge name, but had alotbof hype and fell completely flat. Vick - was that the end? Brandon Pettigrew - many felt he was the next annual top 5 TE, but has shown he can not...

I just don't see it, kid looked awful in the easiest position to adjust to in the NFL.

If he could help my team win, I don't care. I don't have to agree with their life style, as long as they work hard, stay out of trouble and kick some ads, I am good with them on my team.

I enjoy their misery.....though for rivalry sake, it would be fun to have both decent at the same time, something that has not happened in my adult life......

Huh????? I don't speak to highly about the mistake by the lake.....the United States has 2 arm pits......Detruoit and Cleveland.......and Cleveland isn't Ohio......I don't know who claims it, but it's not Ohio ;)

Are you freaking kidding me.......I ain't no Brown Stain fan......