The Continuing WAC Merry Go Round Thread

Sgt John

Sith Lord of T&A
HONOLULU -- The Western Athletic Conference is trying to lure North Texas while clinging onto hopes of keeping its longest-running member, Hawaii, from bolting to the Mountain West Conference.

WAC Commissioner Karl Benson held a teleconference Monday in an effort to quash questions about the viability of the beleaguered conference that's reeling from the departure of its top football programs. Powerhouse Boise State is leaving next year while Fresno State, Nevada and Hawaii plan to leave in 2012.

"The purpose of today's call is to eliminate any of the reports that we aren't going to survive," he said. "This is a very strong statement that the WAC is prepared to move forward and do whatever it takes to continue our operations."

Benson said he spoke Monday with North Texas, a member of the Sun Belt Conference, about joining the WAC. Also, if TCU joins the Big East in football, Benson hopes to land the Horned Frogs in other sports.

"But our main focus right now is to do everything we can to keep the University of Hawaii," he said.

Hawaii recently announced that it was close to leaving the WAC after 32 years and joining the Mountain West for football and possibly the Big West in other sports. University of Hawaii President M.R.C. Greenwood talked to Mountain West Commissioner Craig Thompson by phone Thursday, and said she was confident a deal would be worked out.

As of Monday, the MWC had not yet extended an invite to Hawaii.

Benson plans to meet with Hawaii athletic director Jim Donovan on Tuesday at the WAC volleyball championship in Las Vegas.

"Our desire here is to let the University of Hawaii know they're a valuable piece of the WAC and we will work with them to try to come up with some structure that will be beneficial to them and to the WAC," Benson said.

Hawaii didn't have any immediate response.

Benson declined to say what proposals he might make to Hawaii, which also considered becoming an independent.

The possible addition of North Texas would give the WAC three schools in the Lone Star State, and eight to start the football season in 2012.

The WAC needs a minimum of eight schools to retain its FBS status. Even a seven-school football conference wouldn't affect the FBS status of individual schools or prevent them playing in the postseason. It would, however, diminish the WAC's reputation.

The WAC has announced it would add Texas-San Antonio, Texas State and the University of Denver on July 1, 2012. Denver doesn't have a football team.

Donovan had noted these schools send the WAC farther into the middle of the country geographically, away from Hawaii, and thus would increase the school's travel expenses.

Other WAC members are San Jose State, Idaho, New Mexico State, Louisiana Tech and Utah State.

Benson said the WAC is aggressively trying to pursue another football-playing school. He said the WAC ideally would want to get to a nine-team conference, but his goal now is to get back to eight.

If the WAC loses more schools, Benson said he's prepared with a list of other schools.

"Right now, we're focusing on the fact we have five members that are committed and three coming in July 1, 2012, that will get us to the eight," he said.
 

Sgt John

Sith Lord of T&A
Ok, since Karl Benson has spent the last year constantly trying to save his league, lets keep it in one thread. For reference:

2012 Western Athletic Conference

Utah State Aggies
Idaho Vandals
Louisiana Tech Bulldogs
San Jose State Spartans
New Mexico State Aggies (?)
Texas State Bobcats
UT San Antonio Road Runners
Hawaii Warriors

Possible Additional Football Member:
Montana Grizzlies

Possible 2012 Western Athletic Conference

Utah State Aggies
Idaho Vandals
Louisiana Tech Bulldogs
San Jose State Spartans
New Mexico State Aggies (?)
Texas State Bobcats
UT San Antonio Road Runners
North Texas Mean Green

Possible Addional Football Member:
Montana Grizzlies
 

Sgt John

Sith Lord of T&A
Ok football fans, lets take a look at this. In any event, this is a weak freakin conference. VERY weak.

I understand Hawaii complaining about the travel, as Texas State, North Texas, and UTSA would be a further flight from Reno or Fresno, but in the grand scheme of things I dont think the costs would be that much.

From a football perspective, at kickoff in 2012, Hawaii would be in the driver seat. Eventually they will face a LOT of trouble from Texas State, but initially, Hawaii pretty much has 3 or 4 conference championships locked up. I think the idea of Hawaii going "independant" is silly.

Sure, they could easily fill a schedule with BCS schools year and and year out wanting a nice trip to the islands, but they also will get crushed year in and year out by BCS schools. Stay in the conference, win some titles, increase your recruiting and profile, and then see who wants you in.

I assume if they are calling the MWC, there must be some interest, but I dont really see how bringing Hawaii on board would help the MWC, unless its for the specific purpose of getting a conference title game and breaking into the BCS.
 
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