Lions RB Jahvid Best to be Bush - Like?

[Coachnorm]

Detroit Lions rookie RB Jahvid Best is going to be used in the Reggie Bush mode this season, reports Tim Twentyman, of The Detroit News. Best will be part of the team's running back by committee approach and be used some in between the tackles, on toss plays, screen passes and as a wide receiver. The Lions will put him in situations where he is in the open field as much as they can.

You have to like Best to get off to a fast start with the Lions. Kevin Smith is still working his way back from an injury so he maybe off to a slow start or even a no start. Using Best in a Bushlike role will also keep Best well into the mix even with a strong Kevin Smith return. You have to like the Lions new Offensive attitude also. Getting the ball to Best in space, dbl TE formations. The Lions could be an exciting bunch to watch on offense this year. Keep in mind that this O already does a good job, tighten up the Defenses belt a couple of notches and things could get very interesting in Detroit.

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[cctekguy]

Bush-Like?

Suddenly everyone is "Bush-Like".

I'm sorry, but whenever I see that label attached to a RB his value goes down in my book.

The REAL Bush is no fantasy stud and better used as a decoy yet everyone gets giddy at the prospect of having a "Bush-Like" RB.

Gimme the RBs that are "Anti-Bush-Like"...You know, the ones that actually run the ball and touch it 20 times a game.

 

[Miller]

Bush-Like?

Suddenly everyone is "Bush-Like".

I'm sorry, but whenever I see that label attached to a RB his value goes down in my book.

The REAL Bush is no fantasy stud and better used as a decoy yet everyone gets giddy at the prospect of having a "Bush-Like" RB.

Gimme the RBs that are "Anti-Bush-Like"...You know, the ones that actually run the ball and touch it 20 times a game.

In traditional scoring leagues you are dead on teckie. But with the popularity of ppr leagues and now even more leagues using return yds for scoring "Bush like" can actually be a very intriguing thing.

When Bush was healthy and being used in all phases of the game (ru, pa, ret) he was a fantasy dream in those types of leagues. An example would be 2008 pre injury. If you look at weeks 1-7 Bush was not just good, he was off the charts! To illustrate this let's look at the SO Hired Guns league in which you get scoring for ppr and ret yds. After week 7 Bush was the #1 RB with 174 pts. The next highest over that time was 145 pts. So he was scoring over 4 pts a game more than the #2 RB in the league! If he would have stay healthy and maintained that insane pace he would have been looking at a 397 pt year! The best back that year turned out to be DWill at 308. The pace he was on is equal to the blistering pace Chris Johnson set this past year with 396 pts!

Now if you look at a more traditional league with no ppr and no ret yds Bush is much more mortal and even when he's at his best, he's not an elite back in those systems. Let's look at that same 2008 start. We showed the dynamic start he had in the HG's scoring system where there was just no equal. In a basic scoring league through week 7, not only was Bush not the #1 RB, he was barely in the top 10! He had 94 pts compared to the leader at 130. 5 pts a week less than the leader.

IMO, these is no RB who's value changes more depending on the scoring system. That is why I am very leary of a player like Best in traditional scoring leagues and this makes me worry more. If they are going to be moving him all over he's not going to get those consistent 20 carries and goalline ops that are needed to be a top RB. However, you put him in a more complicated scoring system that scores for all the different ways he can impact the game and you can watch the pts rack up very quickly!

Know the scoring system and how it effects different types of players.....especially the "Bush Type" players.

 

[mudloggerone]

Nice work Miller though I'm no Bush fan.

 

[cctekguy]

I think the whole "Bush-Like" thing is defining more of a position than a player. Teams are moving more towards having that Do-It-All type position in their playbook.

Sadly for Detroit and Best, that type of position is only successful if there is a threat of a traditional running game. Without Pierre Thomas (as an example) in the RB position your Bushback is somewhat easily defended with spying LBs and safeties... depending, of course, on the skill set of your Bushback.

If you throw Kevin Smith back in the mix as a true RB and Stafford and CJ can pose a legitimate down field threat then your Bushback could be successful. To date, Detroit has neither running game nor passing game (primarily due to the offensive line) so the notion of making your rookie a Bushback is really just throwing Best to the wolves.

 

[nicholete]

Im so glad this thread was started AFTER I picked Best in one of my leagues!!

 

[chrisslabaugh]

This isn't a bad thing for Best. Oh no!!!! They are going to find a LOT of different ways for a playmaker to get the ball! Last time I checked you could throw Chris Johnson in the "Bushback" category. He lines up all over the field and dominated. Just because Reggie Bush blows does not mean that others can't or won't make the most of their touches.

 

[storminn0rm]

I still like Best this year. It's kind of funny that now we have running backs that are "bush-like". I have never been a fan of Reggie Bush, but when he was healthy, he was pretty good.

 

[cctekguy]

Im so glad this thread was started AFTER I picked Best in one of my leagues!!

I think Best will do fine this year, Nikki, but it won't be as a "Bushback".

He's really the only thing Detroit has behind the QB (for right now) and I seriously doubt that Detroit will abandon the running game.

 

[JackG1980]

In traditional scoring leagues you are dead on teckie. But with the popularity of ppr leagues and now even more leagues using return yds for scoring "Bush like" can actually be a very intriguing thing.

When Bush was healthy and being used in all phases of the game (ru, pa, ret) he was a fantasy dream in those types of leagues. An example would be 2008 pre injury. If you look at weeks 1-7 Bush was not just good, he was off the charts! To illustrate this let's look at the SO Hired Guns league in which you get scoring for ppr and ret yds. After week 7 Bush was the #1 RB with 174 pts. The next highest over that time was 145 pts. So he was scoring over 4 pts a game more than the #2 RB in the league! If he would have stay healthy and maintained that insane pace he would have been looking at a 397 pt year! The best back that year turned out to be DWill at 308. The pace he was on is equal to the blistering pace Chris Johnson set this past year with 396 pts!

Now if you look at a more traditional league with no ppr and no ret yds Bush is much more mortal and even when he's at his best, he's not an elite back in those systems. Let's look at that same 2008 start. We showed the dynamic start he had in the HG's scoring system where there was just no equal. In a basic scoring league through week 7, not only was Bush not the #1 RB, he was barely in the top 10! He had 94 pts compared to the leader at 130. 5 pts a week less than the leader.

IMO, these is no RB who's value changes more depending on the scoring system. That is why I am very leary of a player like Best in traditional scoring leagues and this makes me worry more. If they are going to be moving him all over he's not going to get those consistent 20 carries and goalline ops that are needed to be a top RB. However, you put him in a more complicated scoring system that scores for all the different ways he can impact the game and you can watch the pts rack up very quickly!

Know the scoring system and how it effects different types of players.....especially the "Bush Type" players.

You are absolutely right! I had bush on my team that year and he was the number 1 RB in our league until he got hurt. In any PPR league is a decent RB2 and an excellent flex.