Is Mangini the worst hire ever?

Sgt John

Sith Lord of T&A
There is an article on SI about this. He sure does seem like a bad one right now, especially with this "Watergate" thing going.
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Orgazmo

Well-Known Member
A Browns fan said that Mangina's changes at the facility included painting over murals of Jim Brown and Otto Graham. If that's true, he's not just a poor hire but also a huge douche of a person.

And if it's not true, he's still a poor hire and a huge douche so win-win for me.
 

nicholete

Hope comes with batteries
A Browns fan said that Mangina's changes at the facility included painting over murals of Jim Brown and Otto Graham. If that's true, he's not just a poor hire but also a huge douche of a person.

And if it's not true, he's still a poor hire and a huge douche so win-win for me.

Well said. He just seems like such an ass like he is the all that and then some.
 

cctekguy

Staff member
I gotta give Barry Switzer the trophy for worst hire ever. Mangini sucks pretty bad but he took over a lousy team.

Switzer inherited Jimmy Johnson's Super Bowl team and left behind a pile of rubbish. We all know that Jerry Jones was actually coaching during Switzers reign so it's not all Barry's fault, but besides his coaching, he was such buffoon off the field.

Total idiot...IMO.
 

Mike

Administrator
On a serious note, I am curious how much of the problems Cleveland is having right now is related to the coaching, or possibly related to ownership.

From what I hear, there might be a money issue.

So, who decided to demote Brady Quinn? Coach or Owner?

Brady Quinn has an additional $11 Million coming him if he takes 70% of the snaps this year. Just something to think about.
 

Mike

Administrator
Bill Belichick was extremely bad as well during his first three years as a head coach :)
 

Mike

Administrator
I think sometimes judgements are made too quickly on coaches and players. Not only at the pro level, but in college as well.

for example, take Mack Brown as a college football coach. He would never be able to beat a highly ranked team, much less make it to a National Championship, and he damn sure never would be able to win that game. He was tagged with this after coaching at Tulane and coaching football at a basketball college (and actually making that team relevant). Glad that Dodds had the patience to stick with him.

Ever wonder how we would view Jimmy Johnson, had Tom Landry not drafted Michael Irvin, and if Jimmy would have landed his target of Blair Thomas instead of being stuck with Emmitt Smith? And how close was he to benching Troy Aikman in favor of a spare? Things beyond his control fell in his favor (Michael Irvin and Emmitt Smith), and a good decision was made (sticking with Aikman, though he was persuaded heavily by Jerry Jones to stick with him). A dynasty was built around these three players, yet this could have easily been a disaster and a much shorter lived coaching stay for Jimmy Johnson.

Shanahan has two rings thanks to a 7th round running back that they simply drafted for athletic ability,and didn't really expect to make the team. After watching him go completely wild during preseason on special teams, a star was born. Does Shanahan get a ring without Terrell Davis?
 

Sgt John

Sith Lord of T&A
Difference being Mack Brown was a winner from day one. Mack Brown never fined a guy 1700 bucks over a friggin bottle of water. Mack Brown didnt try to erase the name Darrell K Royal off the stadium.

Jimmy and Shanny made or fell into some damn good luck. However neither of these guys tried to come in and erase the heroes of the past.

Let me go find the link to that article.
 

Mike

Administrator
Players get fined for some silly stuff. If the team was winning, we would be laughing about this fine, seriously.

As for the erasing of the past, who is responsible for this? IT seems insane to me, but is Mangini the one responsible for it happening?
 

nicholete

Hope comes with batteries
This is partly Cleveland's fault. Even if he did order it Cleveland ownership and GM should tell him no.
 
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