Impact on negotiations

Adam Schefter of ESPN reports via Twitter that former NFL defensive backTroy Vincent has been named NFL vice president of player development for active players, the NFL announced today.

Am I remembering correctly that Vincent was the primary contender to Smith's position w/ the union? Does this have an impact on negotiations and if so what?
 
Very interesting.....

I really dont think he could bring much insight into the Unions stance, as its pretty well common knowledge already.
 
Very interesting.....

I really dont think he could bring much insight into the Unions stance, as its pretty well common knowledge already.

I wasn't focusing so much on what insight he brings but more...

1. Doesn't this remove him from the equation as being a factor for the union? When Smith (and Not So Goodell) bring this to the brink of a lock out does this eliminate the unions 2nd best option?

2. Is this a good move by the NFL to bring the "other" guy on board for perhaps PR

3. Are there other +/-'s for this move?
 
I wasn't focusing so much on what insight he brings but more...

1. Doesn't this remove him from the equation as being a factor for the union? When Smith (and Not So Goodell) bring this to the brink of a lock out does this eliminate the unions 2nd best option?

2. Is this a good move by the NFL to bring the "other" guy on board for perhaps PR

3. Are there other +/-'s for this move?
Good questions.

To me it is one of two things:
A) They want these negotiations to be contentious....so they don't go through and the owners can set the rules and the union will then break up, so they took his main competition to keep this contention up.

or

B) They brought in a popular candidate from the union to show they want to work with the union to fix the issues.

Not sure yet which is the case.
 
Good questions.

To me it is one of two things:
A) They want these negotiations to be contentious....so they don't go through and the owners can set the rules and the union will then break up, so they took his main competition to keep this contention up.

or

B) They brought in a popular candidate from the union to show they want to work with the union to fix the issues.

Not sure yet which is the case.

So far it appears both sides want this to be contentious so I won't lay that happening on only the owners.

They may have taken Vincent so if it gets ugly the #2 guy is off the market. If the owners wanted to show they will work with the union it will take more than this to convince me.
 
Liz Mullen of the SportsBusiness Journal reports Troy Vincent, the NFL's new VP/Player Development for Active Players, will start on Monday and will report to NFL VP/Law & Labor Policy Adolpho Birch III, who oversees the NFL player development program. But the hiring raised eyebrows in the football community and some wondered what impact, if any, it could have on the league's position and if it could hurt the union during labor talks. Vincent did not immediately return a call; NFLPA Assistant Exec Dir of External Affairs George Atallah was not available for comment.
Bill Gould, former National Labor Relations Board Chair, said it was quite uncommon for management to hire a former leader of the union it negotiates against during the midst of collective bargaining. "For someone to be on one side and switch to another in a short period of time -- that is what has happened here -- that is very unusual. I can't think of that happening in any other collective bargaining situation." Gould added that Vincent "would certainly have information that would be helpful to the NFL and he would certainly have been more involved (in the NFLPA) than anyone else in that position who would be available for that kind of job. He (Vincent) would know something about the dynamics of the personalities and the intra-politics that drive the union. That we know for sure."

Many people would not go on the record to talk about Vincent's hiring and what it means, saying it was too sensitive a topic and could hurt the union. One former sports union leader said that the league could gain insight into the NLFPA's strengths and weaknesses, as well as the "factions in the union" through Vincent. Another player-side source said the league hired Vincent as "a wedge" to divide players.

NFL Senior VP/PR Greg Aiello when asked if Vincent was hired as a way to divide players said, “Absolutely not. This is a way to fill an important position in our player development area with an individual extremely well-suited for the job as we expand our ability to provide off-field assistance to players. It is the position that was previously held by another former player, Hall of Famer Mike Haynes.” As to whether Vincent’s knowledge of the union would provide give the league an edge in a labor battle, Aiello said, “Our negotiating team already knows the union and its leadership very well. Troy will not be part of our negotiating team and will not be involved in labor negotiations.” Aiello added, “The union leadership has changed significantly since Troy was involved and the notion that internal union politics will decide the outcome is not realistic.”
 
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