Fitzgerald #2 overall???

wisfinfan05

wisfinfan05

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Hear me out. I have the first overall pick in my 12 team standard scoring league. After Favre signed the guy with the second overall pick wanted AP so we made a trade. We swaped first round picks (I now pick 2nd, he picks first). And I get his 4th round pick, and he gets my 8th round pick.

After talking with other guys in my league it seems a few ppl will try the WR-WR strategy and almost everyone else said they will draft at least 1 WR in the first two round. So, my concern is the WRs available will be middle third tier type guys (Vincent Jackson, Chad Ocho, TO, Santonio Holmes ect). Where as the RBs available are alittle more trustworthy group who could even end up top 10-15 type backs (Ronnie Brown, Ryan Grant, possible Clinton Portis). Plus having an extra 4th round pick I could use on another "flyer" type RB. Am I crazy for considering Fitz second overall??
 
JackG1980

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Yes you are. Get Forte dummy head. LOL... In my opinion Fritz, Boldin, A.J., Moss, C.J, and Jennings all have similar value. Get Forte then get Colston.
 
wisfinfan05

wisfinfan05

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Thing is im not 100% sold on Forte who has been banged up a bit and am smelling a sophomore slump. The WR value isnt going to be there

PS Colston will be gone.
 
wisfinfan05

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mudloggerone said:
I wouldn't take Fitz at two. There are too many great RB's available at that slot.
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Thing is I disagree. There is only one "GREAT" Rb available in this entire draft. Every RB has ?s. You can pencil Fitz in for 1400 yards and 10-14 TDs. I dont think you can say the same for any of the other RBs available at #2. The other thing is taking Fitz second will cause panic mode for the other owners (a wide reciever run). Meaning the quality of runningback available in the second/third round will be better than other drafts.
 
Birdman

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Fitz isn't even my #1 or #2 receiver this year. So no... I don't think using the #2 pick on him would be wise. You can still fortify your RB position with Forte, MJD etc. or you can trade down again so you pick late first early second, where you'll have your pick of WRs anyways.

You can't really go wrong here though. The guy was an idiot to give you an extra 4th round pick just to move up one measly spot.

It also fascinates me how people seem to prefer Fitzy over Moss.
 
Phicinfan

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wisfinfan05 said:
Hear me out. I have the first overall pick in my 12 team standard scoring league. After Favre signed the guy with the second overall pick wanted AP so we made a trade. We swaped first round picks (I now pick 2nd, he picks first). And I get his 4th round pick, and he gets my 8th round pick.

After talking with other guys in my league it seems a few ppl will try the WR-WR strategy and almost everyone else said they will draft at least 1 WR in the first two round. So, my concern is the WRs available will be middle third tier type guys (Vincent Jackson, Chad Ocho, TO, Santonio Holmes ect). Where as the RBs available are alittle more trustworthy group who could even end up top 10-15 type backs (Ronnie Brown, Ryan Grant, possible Clinton Portis). Plus having an extra 4th round pick I could use on another "flyer" type RB. Am I crazy for considering Fitz second overall??
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yes, you can go WR that early..and get value. However, if and only if it is a Ppr league. Otherwise...I don't agree on the value.

IF it is a Ppr league...then I would submit the points for a rb that catches alot of passes is higher than most #1 wrs. So forte or MJD would be as good if not better choices.

Still, if you really like the Wr/Wr option....as pointed out there are tons of Rbs you can get later..and do well.

For the record...Fitz scares me due to Warner. I am on record here I don't think Warner survives the year. I hope I am wrong..but the superbowl flashback is a killer ....and his O-line isn't that great.

So if you go Wr...may want to think Moss or some other.
 
wisfinfan05

wisfinfan05

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Phicinfan said:
yes, you can go WR that early..and get value. However, if and only if it is a Ppr league. Otherwise...I don't agree on the value.

IF it is a Ppr league...then I would submit the points for a rb that catches alot of passes is higher than most #1 wrs. So forte or MJD would be as good if not better choices.

Still, if you really like the Wr/Wr option....as pointed out there are tons of Rbs you can get later..and do well.

For the record...Fitz scares me due to Warner. I am on record here I don't think Warner survives the year. I hope I am wrong..but the superbowl flashback is a killer ....and his O-line isn't that great.

So if you go Wr...may want to think Moss or some other.
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The way Fitz plays it really doesnt matter who is throwing him the ball. He has done well with McCown in the past. Even Leinhart has had good games.

I do agreee with a previous poster that Randy Moss may very well be the top WR. But Fitz is the safer pick IMO.
 
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I also think Warner doesn't play 16 games. Without Warner, Fitz and Bolden drop to Tier 2 and 3 WRs. I LOVE Warner, love his attitude, love his play style .... but he is older.

There wil be good possesion WR's there for you on the turn of rounds 2 and 3, you can get two of them there.
 
wisfinfan05

wisfinfan05

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tblGoBlue said:
Sounds like you have your mind set on Fitz.
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Yah I basically do have my mind set on Fitz. Im fearing Moss dropping off a bit (numbers slightly better than last season). With Fitz being a "safer" option while Moss with a higher ceiling. So would some of you be in favor if my idea if i considered someone other than Fitz?? Moss??
 
JackG1980

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wisfinfan05 said:
Thing is im not 100% sold on Forte who has been banged up a bit and am smelling a sophomore slump. The WR value isnt going to be there

PS Colston will be gone.
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I dont see Forte having a sophmore slump after upgrading to a way better QB. He caught 65 passes last year. He could break the 90 mark with Cutler. Forte will be his best passing option! But it does look like you are set on Fritz and it might set off a WRs grab after MJD, Turner and Forte are gone. Moss, A.J., Jennings, and C.J. will be grabbed before your next picks. What would be your next pick?
 
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Bull

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I don't think anyone on here is going to agree with any WR going #2 overall. If you picked on the tail end of round 1 and could then follow up with a RB that would be different. The drop off of RB from #2 to #24 is too great to go WR at the #2 spot. If you already are dead set on Fitz at #2 and aren't going to listen to any of us then I'll refer to advice my dad game me as a kid. Don't ask the question unless you really want to know the answer.
 
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Bull

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Oh and btw, I love Fitz and agree with you on the Moss comparison (higher potential ceiling for Moss, but Fitz will get his numbers regardless of the QB). I'm in the minority on that view, but even that view won't have me taking Fitz at the #2 overall.
 
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comegetDATnguyen

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I don't think I could pass on MJD or Forte if I have the #2 pick in a draft. These are young, dual-threat RBs with high upside and a high ceiling.

While I do believe that Fitz is consitent, I think Moss/AJ outproduce him this year.

Also, I believe Fitz's value hinges solely on the health of an aging QB coming off of offseason hip surgery...not something I would risk with my 1st round selection.
 
Trickster

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OK at pick 2 I think Fitz is a really bad decision. First of all, you could nab most likely MJD or Forte, who are both studs. Along with others who have said this, fitz depends on Warner to produce stellar numbers. Yes he is athletic, but Warner is the reason why his numbers are so insane. Without Warner, those will drop. And believe me, at some point he will be without Warner. The dude is old enough to be my grandpa. He will not last 16 games. To top it off, I think Moss will produce better numbers than Fitz. I believe Moss is the #1 receiver in the draft.
 
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